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Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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Any business that uses AGOL software needs to be able to provide the source code of that AGPL software to people who use their services That is… just not something most online stores are interested in adding to their compliance burden. And of course they will have changes. It’s a business software platform, the only way to accomplish some things is going to be through adding or modifying code.

> Any business that uses AGOL software needs to be able to provide the source code of that AGPL software to people who use their services Step 1: add GitHub link to footer on website ...that's it, you have achieved compliance. This "wah the AGPL is too viral" argument is the same FUDdy duddy nonsense Microsoft was whining about back in the early 2000's about the original GPL - and it's even less of a valid argument n…

Step 2: take responsibility for all the content of that GitHub link being free of copyright infingements, patent violations, etc.

And you missed step 0: convince the boss there’s a good reason why your e-commerce storefront needs to have a link to a GitHub page on it.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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18 hours is a pretty stupid selling point IMO. You either need something immediately or you can wait. Rarely do I need anything 18 hours from now. I think many sellers would love to not be locked into Amazon and at least use something like this as an additional alternative. I'm on the other side of the table where I avoid buying from Amazon as much as possible.

Lol Amazon would disagree and are laughing their way to the bank.

Amazon's retail branch is supported by AWS' profit, so no.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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Yes I saw that. The last one was a blog post I made in 2019 describing the vision in detail.

Nothing wrong with wanting to showcase what you're working on but don't spam HN when you're not pleased with the amount of eyeballs on it (At least not multiple times within 24 hours with varying titles like you're trying to AB test)

Even if you say that, it totally worked, so they have little incentive to take your advise.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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js has come a long way but i'm skeptical that it's maturing fast enough for this to be the right medium- to long-term language/platform choice for something that's meant to be more infrastructure than just web app. and while php[0] is long past the hype cycle, it's more proven in this role than js, but even that is usually superceded, or at least augmented, by more "industrial" languages when approaching amazon's sca…

Isn't this project mostly about interfaces for businesses to connect their guts? The language used to implement services behind common interfaces shouldn't matter all that much. It's just the reference implementation in js, no?

i didn't examine deeply but it seemed to me the backend is running on node, and that it was meant to be the implementation, not just a reference.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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> - Using a copyleft license like AGPL makes this an automatic non-starter for most businesses, no matter how impressive your tech might be. You'll have a lot more luck with mid-size and enterprise adoption with an MIT license. What makes the AGPL unattractive? I thought it was basically just the GPL with a limitation on using the software to provide a SaaS product. You don't even have to contribute unpublished chang…

Here's Google's stance on why they ban AGPL software: https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl... > The primary risk presented by AGPL is that any product or service that depends on AGPL-licensed code, or includes anything copied or derived from AGPL-licensed code, may be subject to the virality of the AGPL license. > This viral effect requires that the complete corresponding source code of the pr…

> The primary risk presented by AGPL is that any product or service that depends on AGPL-licensed code ... _may be_ subject to the virality of the AGPL license.

This is aggressive scare tactics. It's very straightforward when this is triggered.

When you're using code unmodified as a library (whether source or binary) it's not triggered at all.

When you _do_ make upstream modifications, it's triggered. That is the specific risk, and it is easily satisfied by open-sourcing the full modified version.

The whole "if a remote user uses it" argument is FUD. It closes a loophole in GPL where remote use != distribution.

Google is hostile to copyleft full stop. So are other bigcos and cargo-culting smallcos/startups. That doesn't make it right.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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Just goes to show that for all of HN's hyper ad awareness, we still fall for basic click bait in our own territory.

Another way to frame it (from the opposite direction) is a collective failure on "our" part (if there is such a thing as "us") to explore and promote genuinely interesting things just because they lack the sparkle of click bait on the outer surface. Maybe it isn't that we "fall for" click bait, it's that we very loudly ignore stuff that isn't.

Sometime I feel like submitting to blackhole when not receiving any comments, but I've adjusted the expectation over time

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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> a blog post I made in 2019 describing the vision Hence I think you have, regrettably, answered your own question. Its all very well having a vision, but executing it is a different question. The sort of thing you propose requires a lot of time and a lot of money to develop. Let alone maintain. Let alone market and sell. Look, its like all those "Bloomberg killers" that come out of the woodwork as often as the seaso…

> I admire your ambition, but perhaps rein it in a little ? Maaaan if we were in the same room. Don't belittle someone who's trying to accomplish something (and following through with it).

> Maaaan if we were in the same room.

What does that part mean exactly? Sounds a bit threatening.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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post #46

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> - Using a copyleft license like AGPL makes this an automatic non-starter for most businesses, no matter how impressive your tech might be. You'll have a lot more luck with mid-size and enterprise adoption with an MIT license. What makes the AGPL unattractive? I thought it was basically just the GPL with a limitation on using the software to provide a SaaS product. You don't even have to contribute unpublished chang…

Here's Google's stance on why they ban AGPL software: https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl... > The primary risk presented by AGPL is that any product or service that depends on AGPL-licensed code, or includes anything copied or derived from AGPL-licensed code, may be subject to the virality of the AGPL license. > This viral effect requires that the complete corresponding source code of the pr…

There is no such thing as virality, you always retain your own copyright over the code if you don't publish it under the AGPL. If you use AGPL code in a non AGPL codebase you are merely violating copyright and must remove the AGPL code from your codebase.

Re: Show HN: I'm building an open-source Amazon

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18 hours is a pretty stupid selling point IMO. You either need something immediately or you can wait. Rarely do I need anything 18 hours from now. I think many sellers would love to not be locked into Amazon and at least use something like this as an additional alternative. I'm on the other side of the table where I avoid buying from Amazon as much as possible.

18 hours is overnight. Last night "Hmm. Toothpaste almost gone. Let me check the linen closet. Nope. Excuse me while I whip this out. (gasp) Swipe, tap, tap, t-o-o-t-h (autocomplete), scroll, tap, tap, tap. Done." Used the last this morning, new toothpaste delivered at noon. I shop online exclusively because one of my first jobs was in retail and it is my solemn duty to do everything I can to annihilate the brick and…

My local brick and mortar store is less than five minutes away. Why the hell do I have to replace it with an even more expensive alternative store that increases the waiting time by a factor of 216?
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