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Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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If you're looking for a fully open source, self-hostable, E2EE wiki web app then you might be interested in Peergos - https://peergos.org We have a markdown based wiki viewer and editor- https://peergos.org/posts/markdown-browser There is also secure sharing of documents or folders with others. Peergos is a generic P2P E2EE filesystem with a bunch of apps on top, and you can write your own too - https://peergos.org/p…

I love this part: https://github.com/Peergos/ipfs-nucleus

I've tried IPFS before but I hit a bug when using it so gave up on my idea for a side project. Might give this a go!

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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post #7

My primary requirement for personal note taking is self hosting. That's the only thing that assures me that my years of notes will be available when I wake up every morning. (And if I don't wake up one morning, I doubt I'll miss the availability of my notes)

StandardNotes makes daily encrypted exports to your Google drive, mailbox, and others. That's not self hosted but it's texts files so... Good enough for me.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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post #11

Encryption is nice, but what I really want is local-first, multi-device, and a very short time between when I launch the app and when I start being able to type. When I want to capture an idea or want to spend my limited time journalling, I want it fast. Hyperlinking and adding photos are nice. Evernote has been focusing on collaborative features I don’t care about. Startup time to when I can start typing have been g…

I use sublime text for that. It launches super fast, and after I capture whatever idea I have I usually copy the doc over to notion. Sometimes, all I need is to just capture whatever thought I have and not worry at all about copying them to notion or other tools (especially common when coding / debugging, I will just have an idea and then either excute on it or create a github issue)

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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post #52

I have moved on to a plaintext lifestyle that isn't tied to any tooling. If I have to protect/encrypt the content, I will look at doing that at the container -- such as a Vault. Tools such as Obsidian[1] are a good option for me, as I can use it as that -- a tool and not worry about the content being tied to any platform - open or otherwise. For your Vault protection, tools such as the Cryptomator[2] works well. I re…

But then when your collection gets to a certain size it's barely usable without an app. You lose all the easy traversal between interlinked notes for instance. I think plain text sets the bar very low for the functionality absolutely required from an app, but doesn't eliminate it.

I'm definitely in favor of tools on top of my text files. I started with Sublime Text[1] and Markdown Editing[2] Package. I can still and sometimes resort to this setup. I believe that if I can search (Sublime Text is powerful with this) easily, that solves all the connection/relationship between the files.

And a bit of a shameless plug but I have been told by colleagues and friends that my file organizations lasts ages, and are the easiest to navigate. Some have told me, 10-years later, that the system I build and the naming convention are still followed to that day to maintain the software and an easy common-lingual between the designers and developers. :-)

With tools such as Obsidian, it has already shown that this is going to improve as we progress. For me, it is more of the process and patterns of how am I mapping the files/topics/subjects mentally.

1. https://www.sublimetext.com

2. https://sublimetext-markdown.github.io/MarkdownEditing/

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#65

Unless I'm missing something very obvious, the source repository https://github.com/streetwriters/notesnook only includes the client apps and not the server, and the parent organization "streetwriters" doesn't seem to have any other repositories for the server. How are you supposed to run your own instance without that? There's also a lot of marketing-speak in the repository documentation and little to no documentati…

https://notesnook.com/roadmap/

>September onwards

>Open source sync server + self hosting

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#66
post #8

When I see 'pricing' on top of page and sign on requiring email & password, it's better to close tab.

Why? We all have to pay for shelter and food. This looks like what could become a fantastic business and product. I applaud their commitments to privacy and open-source at such an early stage. I am looking forward to hearing about Notesnook more in the future.

You're right. Probably pricing is justified. Just hate to give email details for login.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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post #61

If you're looking for a fully open source, self-hostable, E2EE wiki web app then you might be interested in Peergos - https://peergos.org We have a markdown based wiki viewer and editor- https://peergos.org/posts/markdown-browser There is also secure sharing of documents or folders with others. Peergos is a generic P2P E2EE filesystem with a bunch of apps on top, and you can write your own too - https://peergos.org/p…

I love this part: https://github.com/Peergos/ipfs-nucleus I've tried IPFS before but I hit a bug when using it so gave up on my idea for a side project. Might give this a go!

Thanks! The main reason we wrote ipfs-nucleus was to add access control at the block level. It also let us keep it super simple and thus reduce attack surface.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: Joplin log files include plaintext secret keys when you enable E2EE. I moved away from Joplin after that plus a data loss incident where Joplin decided that it wanted to delete all of my notes in the repository. Too many foot guns there! I did like the software though.

If you don't mind me asking, can you share some more info on this? Did some searching around, and only found one [1] semi related issue from 2018. Is this the one you were referring to? [1] : https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/issues/288

Just look in your log files. Here’s my log file with the keys scrubbed, which I discovered while hunting down an unrelated issue.

https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/keep-original-notebook-on-...

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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post #65

Unless I'm missing something very obvious, the source repository https://github.com/streetwriters/notesnook only includes the client apps and not the server, and the parent organization "streetwriters" doesn't seem to have any other repositories for the server. How are you supposed to run your own instance without that? There's also a lot of marketing-speak in the repository documentation and little to no documentati…

https://notesnook.com/roadmap/ >September onwards >Open source sync server + self hosting

Then I guess after september they can call it "fully open source". For now, it's closed source with an open source client.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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Unless I'm missing something very obvious, the source repository https://github.com/streetwriters/notesnook only includes the client apps and not the server, and the parent organization "streetwriters" doesn't seem to have any other repositories for the server. How are you supposed to run your own instance without that? There's also a lot of marketing-speak in the repository documentation and little to no documentati…

Flagged the submission for misleading title.
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