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A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#11

Post by hosh »

Encryption is nice, but what I really want is local-first, multi-device, and a very short time between when I launch the app and when I start being able to type. When I want to capture an idea or want to spend my limited time journalling, I want it fast. Hyperlinking and adding photos are nice.

Evernote has been focusing on collaborative features I don’t care about. Startup time to when I can start typing have been getting worse over the years. I’ve been seriously looking for a good replacement that lets me import from Evernote.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#12

Post by e3bc54b2 »

kranke155 wrote: post #9
CGamesPlay wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: Joplin log files include plaintext secret keys when you enable E2EE. I moved away from Joplin after that plus a data loss incident where Joplin decided that it wanted to delete all of my notes in the repository. Too many foot guns there! I did like the software though.

I haven’t found anything better than Joplin, have you?

I tried Joplin, and most other PKM/note-taking tools out there.

Eventually settled on org-mode. Encryption can be sync-time using restic/cryptomator (cloud sync), filesystem (self-hosted all the way), or save time using plain old GPG. As a bonus, there is a gigantic ecosystem around org-mode, and thanks to the platform (Emacs) it is nearly completely FLOSS and pretty much guaranteed to be around and kickin' when most commercial systems with either die, get acquired or just change too much for my taste.

Probably not for everyone, though.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#13

Post by mdeepwell »

hosh wrote: post #11

Encryption is nice, but what I really want is local-first, multi-device, and a very short time between when I launch the app and when I start being able to type. When I want to capture an idea or want to spend my limited time journalling, I want it fast. Hyperlinking and adding photos are nice. Evernote has been focusing on collaborative features I don’t care about. Startup time to when I can start typing have been g…

Joplin is significantly better than Evernote for being quick to start typing. Sync runs in the background without preventing you from editing which is why I moved over. Has a decent ability to import notes from Evernote to Joplin as well.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#14

Post by conradev »

> Notesnook is our proof that privacy does not (always) have to come at the cost of convenience

Won’t implementing note sharing be harder for this app than for one that isn’t encrypted?

Encrypted data storage is harder to work with than plaintext data storage and until developers have good tools to close that gap, they’re not going to.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#15

Post by dr_dshiv »

hosh wrote: post #11

Encryption is nice, but what I really want is local-first, multi-device, and a very short time between when I launch the app and when I start being able to type. When I want to capture an idea or want to spend my limited time journalling, I want it fast. Hyperlinking and adding photos are nice. Evernote has been focusing on collaborative features I don’t care about. Startup time to when I can start typing have been g…

Google Keep, everyday (till they kill it)

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#16

Post by 650REDHAIR »

hosh wrote: post #11

Encryption is nice, but what I really want is local-first, multi-device, and a very short time between when I launch the app and when I start being able to type. When I want to capture an idea or want to spend my limited time journalling, I want it fast. Hyperlinking and adding photos are nice. Evernote has been focusing on collaborative features I don’t care about. Startup time to when I can start typing have been g…

Apple Notes is my go to.

Plenty of great new features, but the core is still snappy and easy to use.

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

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Post by mikeodds »

hosh wrote: post #11

Encryption is nice, but what I really want is local-first, multi-device, and a very short time between when I launch the app and when I start being able to type. When I want to capture an idea or want to spend my limited time journalling, I want it fast. Hyperlinking and adding photos are nice. Evernote has been focusing on collaborative features I don’t care about. Startup time to when I can start typing have been g…

Standard notes fits those criteria and as a bonus is encrypted

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#18

Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #10
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #3

Logseq

I'd love to use Logseq, but in my experience the mobile app is quite buggy. Otherwise it works surprisingly well with my existing org-mode notes, if not 100% compatible.

Haven't tried the mobile app, still waiting for that. I take horrible notes on Google keep and then port them to logseq, usually it's not a lot of work because what I can write on phone takes longer than pc

Re: A fully open-source and end-to-end encrypted note taking alternative to Evernote

#20

Post by personalidea »

kranke155 wrote: post #9
CGamesPlay wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: Joplin log files include plaintext secret keys when you enable E2EE. I moved away from Joplin after that plus a data loss incident where Joplin decided that it wanted to delete all of my notes in the repository. Too many foot guns there! I did like the software though.

I haven’t found anything better than Joplin, have you?

Joplin has no mobile writer. Only reading.

Obsidian has that. And is more extendable. That is why I switched.

For me, writing a note on multiple devices is the key feature.

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