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Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

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They muffed it. They were proving to the world how reliable they could be and repairing the damage from the Stormfront debacle, and again they just showed how prone to caving to pressure they can be. What a joke. I will never use CF for anything I want kept online in the face of angry people.

Their Twitter denial of service protection is pretty weak.

Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

#364
And, just like that, the internet lost one of its most staunch defenders. I don't care for KF nor did I used to care about 8chan or stormfront, but it just shows that all the grandstanding from Matthew Prince was for show all along. and the worst of all? its fro nothing, the people doing whatever they were being accused of, which i'm still trying to piece together, are just gonna be in discords or the nth-chan that shows up to host it.

Well I hope he enjoys suddenly having his huge customers from saudi arabia or whatever else start calling things worrysome and prey on that weakness.

Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

#366
> However, as the pressure campaign escalated, so did the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site. Feeling attacked, users of the site became even more aggressive. Over the last two weeks, we have proactively reached out to law enforcement in multiple jurisdictions highlighting what we believe are potential criminal acts and imminent threats to human life that were posted to the site.

I’m sorry, but what?

Few thoughts:

1. Couldn’t people be joining Kiwifarms and acting aggressive to get it banned?

2. Why is cloudflare reporting anything to police? That’s effectively implying they are regularly reviewing content… which is weird if your providing DDoS protection.

The main issue I take is that cloudflare isn’t hosting the content… it’s providing protection from DDoS. So kiwifarms is literally having their security turned on them.

That is imo a breach of contract. It’s one thing to just drop them as a customer it’s another to:

> Visitors to any of the Kiwifarms sites that use any of Cloudflare's services will see a Cloudflare block page and a link to this post.

You’re hijacking their website and saying “read our content” instead.

Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

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post #347

Good. I'm sorry, I'm generally Mr. "Raw raw free speech", but let's not kid ourselves; by all accounts KiwiFarms is (and always has been) a cesspool of horrible people. It's not like 4chan or something, where it might have started with reasonable intentions and just became horrible; KiwiFarms was started for the specific purpose of bullying Chris-Chan, hence why it was initially called Cwcki Farms. KiwiFarms has been…

The part that’s missing here is that the people KF are fighting are on the exact same level. Keffals doxed the KF owner’s mom, lied about the mom being an active KF user and called for her firing: https://archive.ph/15nHu Keffals has called for SWATing: https://web.archive.org/web/20220810180051/https://twitter.c... Do you really think a KF user would SWAT a GOP Congresswoman in the middle of this fight over their DD…

I don’t recall defending Keffals as I do not know who that is, so I have no intention of addressing the first half of your post.

In regards to your second point, I don’t know. If it is the case that someone from KiwiFarms is SWATing people, and Null is ambivalent about it, then a world where KiwiFarms is tolerated is not one that I would like.

Considering how much of a jackass Null was in regards to Byuu/Near’s suicide, it really doesn’t seem out of character.

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