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I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Re: I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Post by ItsTooMuch »

saasxyz wrote: post #33
yreg wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In compliance with federal law, all persons hired will be required to verify identity and eligibility to work in the United States and to complete the required employment eligibility verification document form upon hire. https://www.realworkfromanywhere.com/9281024581

I am not expert in laws but what I understand here is that job position allows employees to work from anywhere but those employees need a work permission in US. In other words, this worldwide position is open only for US citizens. I may be wrong.

There's no need to have US work permission if you're not on the US soil.

Re: I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Post by saasxyz »

peter422 wrote: post #26

So the plan here was to scrape the job listings off another site (freshremote.work), pretend those people posted on your site, make a show HN and then hope someone is tricked into thinking this site actually gets traffic and pays you $49? I understand what you are doing but how is this providing any value? Wouldn’t people just be better off going to the site you are scraping from?

I am not trying to trick people into believing all those postings were posted directly on my site. Anyone clicking around the site will simply find out that it is curated from various sources. And also on the top there is a clause that says "updated daily". Isn't it enough for people to understand this is curated from external services?

Re: I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Post by dewey »

saasxyz wrote: post #42
peter422 wrote: post #26

So the plan here was to scrape the job listings off another site (freshremote.work), pretend those people posted on your site, make a show HN and then hope someone is tricked into thinking this site actually gets traffic and pays you $49? I understand what you are doing but how is this providing any value? Wouldn’t people just be better off going to the site you are scraping from?

I am not trying to trick people into believing all those postings were posted directly on my site. Anyone clicking around the site will simply find out that it is curated from various sources. And also on the top there is a clause that says "updated daily". Isn't it enough for people to understand this is curated from external services?

> Isn't it enough for people to understand this is curated from external services

Usually "curated" means hand selected and filtered, not just scraped and automatically posted. It's an aggregator of aggregators at this point.

Re: I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Post by em-bee »

sokoloff wrote: post #27
paxys wrote: post #2

Do you verify if these jobs are truly location independent? In my experience all such companies really mean "anywhere" as long as it is in a handful of approved countries and time zones, and the rest will get a "sorry we can't hire in this jurisdiction because of compliance/HR/tax issues".

No one is (legally) hiring truly location independent.

legal limits only apply to hiring in countries where the company has a legal presence. in those places there is a possible limitation on legally hiring fulltime contractors as they may be classified as employees.

everywhere else there is no legal limit to hiring contractors, simply because it doesn't make sense for any country to prevent its citizens from selling their services to a foreign company, nor has the country any legal ability to force that company into establishing a local presence.

Re: I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Post by paxys »

peter422 wrote: post #26

So the plan here was to scrape the job listings off another site (freshremote.work), pretend those people posted on your site, make a show HN and then hope someone is tricked into thinking this site actually gets traffic and pays you $49? I understand what you are doing but how is this providing any value? Wouldn’t people just be better off going to the site you are scraping from?

I'd wager "freshremote.work" is doing exactly the same thing. This is why 90% of job boards on the internet are useless. Just stick to reputed ones (Indeed, LinkedIn) or go directly to the company's careers site.

Re: I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Post by robin_reala »

orangepurple wrote: post #28
sintezcs wrote: post #23

I’ve been looking for a new remote job recently, and I’ve heard the following from a couple of companies: “We are a truly remote company - you can work from anywhere in the world! (Except Russia and Belarus)”. Just curious, does the companies from your list allow remote work from these countries?

Courtesy of OFAC, these places are generally off limits: Belarus, Burma, as well as Cote D’Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Cuba, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Iraq, Liberia, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and Zimbabwe You can't touch these people or companies either no matter what: https://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/consolidated/consoli... The amount of stuff you are prohibited from doing business with is huge: http…

That’s only for US companies though.

Re: I made a site for 100% location independent jobs

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Post by orangepurple »

robin_reala wrote: post #47
orangepurple wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Courtesy of OFAC, these places are generally off limits: Belarus, Burma, as well as Cote D’Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Cuba, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Iraq, Liberia, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and Zimbabwe You can't touch these people or companies either no matter what: https://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/consolidated/consoli... The amount of stuff you are prohibited from doing business with is huge: http…

That’s only for US companies though.

Nope. If you violate OFAC as a foreigner you are shit-listed by the US government. You become radioactive and anybody with even the most remote ties to the United States can't do business with you safely. The US government can find a random rule from their massive trove to use to throw the book at you at that point. You're in their crosshairs both literally and figuratively since there is a decades long precedent of US extrajudicial killings of even its own citizens. They will go to immense lengths to shut you down if they hate you enough. The extradition of Kim Dotcom has been going on for a decade and they tried to put him in prison for life because he once had a server in the United States. That's the entire legal basis for the extradition. If they fail he is bankrupted, if they succeed he will be in an American prison until he dies.

OFAC violations can have numerous painful impacts on a foreign company’s business beyond mere payment of fines, including triggering red flags during due diligence by prospective partners, investors, acquirors, and financiers, putting companies in breach of contractual obligations to their banks, creating a disadvantage or disqualification in bidding for contracts, and attracting additional scrutiny from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) when attempting to acquire or invest in U.S. businesses.

From: https://www.wiggin.com/publication/the-aggressive-extraterri...

US government overreach is hard to overstate. If things get bad enough the FBI/CIA will attempt to abduct you (Viktor Bout, Assange, Snowden) or suicide you in a foreign prison (John McAfee). Most likely nobody will learn about your story after your unfortunate "suicide."

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