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Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed

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Re: Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed

#11

I feel like they need to go the SpaceX route and build dozens of these things and just launch them with the expectation that most will fail, but they learn from each failure to improve the next ones.

Not even SpaceX is going to test launch when there are obvious issues.

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#12
post #9

Consequences of choosing the wrong first stage fuel (hydrogen) are many. Those tiny molecules want nothing more from life than to sneak through the smallest of openings. Well, possibly second to mating violently with oxygen.

Doolittle: Bomb, what is your purpose?

Bomb: To explode, of course.

Re: Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed

#13
Likely no next attempt until October, per Eric Berger (Ars Technica):

- "Hearing a rollback to the VAB of the SLS rocket is likely, but I don't have confirmation. If that happens, it is very likely that Artemis I does not launch before October 17, at the earliest."

- "I'm told that Space Launch System program officials will recommend a rollback to the VAB to investigate the hydrogen leak. The Artemis I mission management team will consider this recommendation at their afternoon meeting, and publicly announce a decision at 4pm ET."

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1566088891395883009

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1566104350635835393

Re: Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed

#14

I feel like they need to go the SpaceX route and build dozens of these things and just launch them with the expectation that most will fail, but they learn from each failure to improve the next ones.

Leak was on launch tower side, no?

8-inch quick disconnect hoses have to be really gnarly to do anything with.

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#15
I assume this means the SRBs need to be disassembled to replace the sealing between the segments seeing as how these were stacked beginning in January 2021 [1] and the sealing is guaranteed for 12 months. This has already been extended for 7-8 months but if the launch is to be postponed until October or later they're coming up to 2 years:

The joints connecting each piece of Space Launch System’s five-segment rocket motors are certified for one year once booster stacking begins, a clock that began ticking Jan. 7 with the hoisting of the SLS’s left-hand aft center booster segment on top of the booster’s lowermost piece.

But the 12-month certification limit, a holdover from the space shuttle program, could be extended with an engineering review, according to John Honeycutt, NASA’s Space Launch System program manager at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama.

Honeycutt said in January engineers planned to make measurements and collect data as ground teams stacked each segment of the Artemis 1 boosters inside the Vehicle Assembly Building. The data could help NASA and Northrop Grumman extend the certification of the rocket motor joints beyond 12 months.

“That gives us the best opportunity to do some sort of a life extension on the booster stacking in the event that we need that,” Honeycutt said.

[1] https://spaceflightnow.com/2021/03/09/stacking-complete-for-...

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#18

We’ve been quoted $4bn per launch. If this pattern of delays turns out to be fundamental (a big, if plausible, if), what would the launch costs actually be?

This is normal for any new launch vehicle.

…which is why it’s often a good idea to not use a new launch vehicle on the critical path for your crewed spaceflight program. (Could have used LEO rendezvous of various types to go to the Moon.)

https://spacecraft.ssl.umd.edu/akins_laws.html

> 39. The three keys to keeping a new human space program affordable and on schedule: 1) No new launch vehicles. 2) No new launch vehicles. 3) Whatever you do, don't develop any new launch vehicles.

Re: Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed

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post #9

Consequences of choosing the wrong first stage fuel (hydrogen) are many. Those tiny molecules want nothing more from life than to sneak through the smallest of openings. Well, possibly second to mating violently with oxygen.

Doolittle: Bomb, what is your purpose? Bomb: To explode, of course.

Dark Star. Good movie.

Re: Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed

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post #3

What’s the record amount of scrubs? I guess we have to ask TLC…

The record for the shuttle was 6

Make sure you're comparing apples to apples. Launches are usually scrubbed because of weather. Repeatedly bringing a rocket to the pad on launch day that's ultimately not flight-worthy is different than scrubbing because of higher than nominal cross winds.

And this case is particularly spectacular because while it's ostensibly just a test, they are literally using the exact same engines that the Space Shuttle used. Not as in the exact model, but literally refurbished RS-25 engines that already completed successful flights on the Space Shuttle.

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