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As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by bryanlarsen »

bArray wrote: post #82

I was thinking about this just the other day: 0. Secure food chains _now_. Nobody is talking about this yet. Droughts + fertilizer shortage + energy crisis + inflation = disaster. Name a single Country that got a good harvest this year. Personally I have begun to slowly store long-storage food items to get way ahead of panic buying. 1. Invest in nuclear power heavily. It's okay saying "people should change their live…

1. It takes 20 years to build a nuke plant, 2 years to do wind and 6 months to do solar. Solving the problem 20 years from now is not solving the problem.

2. In case you haven't noticed, the wind subsidies are now negative. Wind subsidizes natgas, not the other way around.

3. If the lithium supply gets cut off, existing EV's don't stop working. If gasoline gets cut off, gasoline cars are stranded. EV's are crucial for self sufficiency.

Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by MrRiddle »

lostlogin wrote: post #81
MrRiddle wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are trying to quickly end the war, it’s Russia who’s prolonging it on purpose. Russia attacked with 1 against 4 in manpower, and is completely fine with the war lasting for a long time. We now see how western powers are forcing Ukraine to do devastating counter offensives that will lead to quicker defeat. And even then I think Russia will take its time. We’re approaching a 10 year long business cycle where cheap…

You make it sound like this is going how Putin wanted it to, and that this is calculated and cunning.

If he didn’t want to prolong the war, why he sent only a fraction of his army? Why they’re attacking only southern and eastern parts and not from Belorus?

Looking at last 2 decades you think Putin is incompetent? You can say many things about him but that’s the last fucking thing on the list.

Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by rasz »

ShivShankaran wrote: post #23
jibbit wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’ve guessed incorrectly how much the average citizen cares about standing up to Putin. Most people believe that the consequences of not standing up to him would be far worse

Impressive how much propaganda can achieve. The average citizen also wanted to stand up to Saddam, Gaddafi, xi , Al Assad before they take over the world

12 of current EU members lived under Russian occupation for >40 years.

Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by simonh »

lostlogin wrote: post #83
Ekaros wrote: post #8

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I then genuinely hope that the same 6 out of 10 are happy to pay their increased energy bill.

It didn’t have to be that way though. It probably does now, but reducing dependence on Russia would have been wise in hindsight. It doesn’t take a genius to see that depending on Russia is a bad idea.

For sure, but that boat has sailed. Right now cutting them off as quickly as possible is the right thing to do.

Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by ShivShankaran »

323 wrote: post #38
ShivShankaran wrote: post #15

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Russia is exporting more oil and gas to china and India and in long run will export to Africa as well in addition to building 19 nuclear reactors across the world from Egypt to Argentina. China is reselling Russian lng while India is reselling Russian oil as blend. True intelligence is backing down now but stopping all Russian imports gradually over next 10 years

China increased US gas imports to record levels, after the war started. US is now the biggest exporter of LNG gas to China: https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insight...

Your news article is from 2020.

In 2022, China increased LNG from Russia by over 60% and dropped from US by 76%. https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/china-i...

Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by ShivShankaran »

MrRiddle wrote: post #89
lostlogin wrote: post #85

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> Russian actions are arguably very localized to military targets I don’t think anyone believes this. Your comment is whataboutism at a grand level. It is possible to oppose slaughtering people wherever they live.

Yet people didn’t oppose when their own governments were slaughtering people. Countries ruined for decades if not centuries. Whataboutism would be if I justified Russian actions, but I’m not doing that. I’m looking at the western butchers pointing fingers at Russian butchers. Hypocrite.

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Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by orwin »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #91
bArray wrote: post #82

I was thinking about this just the other day: 0. Secure food chains _now_. Nobody is talking about this yet. Droughts + fertilizer shortage + energy crisis + inflation = disaster. Name a single Country that got a good harvest this year. Personally I have begun to slowly store long-storage food items to get way ahead of panic buying. 1. Invest in nuclear power heavily. It's okay saying "people should change their live…

1. It takes 20 years to build a nuke plant, 2 years to do wind and 6 months to do solar. Solving the problem 20 years from now is not solving the problem. 2. In case you haven't noticed, the wind subsidies are now negative. Wind subsidizes natgas, not the other way around. 3. If the lithium supply gets cut off, existing EV's don't stop working. If gasoline gets cut off, gasoline cars are stranded. EV's are crucial fo…

20 year to build a nuke plant? You'll want to learn about the "plan Messmer". Or 6 years to build 13 900 MW reactors. When they only had experience with UNGG tech and wanted to use PWR.

I think in the end, 55 reactors were build in 12 years, replacing all coal and gas plants except for 2.

I mean, 50 000 MW in 12 years, basically. For today equivalent of 50 billions USD.

Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by MrRiddle »

checkyoursudo wrote: post #60
curiousgal wrote: post #2

Okay this is a genuine question but why are the G7 not backing down when clearly their populations are the ones suffering? It feels strange to me living in the UK that the sanctions have been spearheaded by the US when they are mostly shielded from Russia. Whereas for European countries, it is obvious that they are dependent on Russian gas and yet they are not willing to negotiate. The average citizen cares about the…

I as an "average citizen" living in Germany care more about an idealistic notion of standing up to bullies than living in complete comfort. I don't know about the UK, but here nobody is going to have problems putting food on the table or freezing to death this winter. [Edit: I should say, no more problems than we already have.] My small discomfort at higher heating prices pales in comparison to the death and destruct…

Not sure what experts you are talking about, Russia itself said Ukraine is no more if it continues to pursue NATO membership. They were saying that since orange revolution in 2004.

Also, looks like your neighbors don’t share your opinion.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-prague-european-un...

Re: As Britain awaits a new prime minister, its cost-of-living crisis mounts

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Post by Jochim »

lostlogin wrote: post #69
buran77 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am extremely comfortable with people having to suffer the obvious consequences of their choicse [sic] Of course, because you probably don't have to live with any serious consequences of your choices, and you're most likely unaffected by these ones either. Almost half if not more than half of the population in a democracy usually doesn't get to make a realistic choice, they voted for the losers without enough powe…

> Then realistically you probably didn't get to "suffer" the real consequences from most of your democratic process related choices. An example of this that I have heard many times is that of Blair and Iraq. However now the situation is more interesting as Brexit was done to themselves, not others (though that does not make any suffering ok).

An interesting point about both is that the proponents garnered their support through extensive lies, directly and through the media.

Public support of the Iraq war went hand in hand with the UN both finding WMDs and approving action[0].

The lies about Brexit are pretty infamous: from £350m/week for the NHS to stoking immigration fears and the fabrication of EU powers.

While it's disappointing that people are convinced by these types of lies, I'm not sure they're fully to blame; or that it does much good to do so. The bigger question is how do you combat these lies. The ones that seem to tickle the part of the brain where factual arguments don't seem to have much sway.

[0] https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/iraq-last-pre-war-polls

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