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Re: Jetbrains Space

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It looks beautiful in the video demo, I just wonder whether integrations will let it down.

GitHub integrates with any code coverage, code quality, security scanning, or CI solution out there.

Slack similarly integrates with any on-call system, time tracking system, code host...

Sure Jetbrains Space has provided the API, webhooks and SDK, but most teams want to focus on their application itself? It feels a lot "safer" to go with a service that isn't trying to offer everything and then pick and choose. Slack+GitHub+CI of the month+code quality plugin of the month+anything...

Re: Jetbrains Space

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It seems like a daunting task for Space to actually deliver on all it's promises, but Jetbrains has an extremely high amount of credibility with developers. I want to believe in this product, as I want competition against VSCode and Slack.

Re: Jetbrains Space

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post #2

It looks beautiful in the video demo, I just wonder whether integrations will let it down. GitHub integrates with any code coverage, code quality, security scanning, or CI solution out there. Slack similarly integrates with any on-call system, time tracking system, code host... Sure Jetbrains Space has provided the API, webhooks and SDK, but most teams want to focus on their application itself? It feels a lot "safer"…

I think the hodgepodge, piecemeal nature of software development tooling is both a strength and a downfall. Something like JetBrains Space appeals to me at this point in my career, because I really just want to write the software and have everything else handled by default. I don't want to be gluing together services just to get work done.

It's also appealing to me as a way to align everyone on the same tools. One of the most effective places I ever worked, had unified tooling across the developers, and was also working exclusively in one software framework. That made them an absolute powerhouse, and able to share knowledge and streamline work in a way you can't do in other environments.

Re: Jetbrains Space

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Seems cool, but the demo video is so corporation-y it's comical. When they said "experience synergy and convergence throughout the system" I almost thought it was satire.

Re: Jetbrains Space

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Has anybody actually tried it? Anyone willing to share their experiences?

The tools looks extremely promising for smaller teams that just want to get the whole thing going with minimal config

Re: Jetbrains Space

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It seems like a daunting task for Space to actually deliver on all it's promises, but Jetbrains has an extremely high amount of credibility with developers. I want to believe in this product, as I want competition against VSCode and Slack.

I can believe that it'll be rough at first, but jetbrains is really good at iteratively improving their products.

that said, I'm not incredibly interested in it. Maybe if I were at a company that just got a series A or something, and was starting to hire quickly, and didn't already have an entrenched environment.

I'll probably make use of their remote environments at some point -- it solves a lot of cross-platform development problems. Still has some rough edges though, based on my 10 minute attempt to use it.

I'm at the point where the only thing I want from them is to be able to use a single ide for multiple languages in the same project. I've brought it up before on HN, and it seems like for at least some of their products you can still use as plugins to intellij. But clion really throws a wrench into that.

Re: Jetbrains Space

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All in one solutions always look super nice when they first come out, as they can shortcut to just implement all the best practices that most people do right now and look very clean by omitting all the weird edge cases. But give it a couple of years, and you are stuck with a slow moving monolith. That jetbrains fleet - a year after the announcement - is still in closed beta shows that they aren't really setup to move quickly.

But from a business perspective this seems like a good move. There is no competition for such a complete package? Email seems to be missing though. And even if your software is closed source, what if you want to open source parts of it for exposure and talent acquisition?

Re: Jetbrains Space

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What I really want is a workflow for managing change requests (CRs) that is tightly integrated with Github and Jira. ServiceNow is super clunky (you can't even have markdown in the fields to provide some decent formatting) and the copy-pasting of links gets tiring very fast.

Re: Jetbrains Space

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Things like the Git hosting provided by this Space thing sounded pretty good for EU-based users, as Jetbrains is a company registered in the Czech Republic.

Unfortunately, their FAQ on privacy states that all of the data will be stored in Amazon AWS, so from the privacy perspective this is no improvement over Github or Gitlab.

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