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Post by rendall »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #228
keepper wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Another example is the new Disney's Pinocchio, were the Blue Fairy is portrait by a black woman. The problem is not that she is black of course. but that the original story is set in Italy, Tuscany, mid 1800, were no black woman was ever seen It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case. And for the récord, i hope you open up a ge…

> It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case. if you don't see a problem in changing someone else's literature and culture (I am Italian and have read Pinocchio since I was a kid) than you probably don't know what respect for different cultures is. I would never think of a movie were Kunta Kinte is Dutch and is portrait by Chris…

Don't worry, it's not you. People who are quick to call someone racist are nearly always struggling internally with their own racism. To their credit they feel quite a lot of shame about that, but until it's resolved they can be quite unpleasant.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by thom »

vkazanov wrote: post #194
narag wrote: post #145

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Not faithful? More like it presents exactly the opposite ideas. Why choose Foundation if you hate every concept that the books stand for?

The show is kinda OK if you ignore the book, I.e. for general public. Expensive, good CG, etc. What does feel painful though is the wasted opportunity: chances are that Foundation will never get its Peter Jackson.

The only way to faithfully film the book would be to make some sort of anthology series, and I don't think that format works well for big-budget prestige drama. As I've said elsewhere, might have been better to start with Prelude to Foundation, perhaps.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by inopinatus »

jltsiren wrote: post #219
farleykr wrote: post #61

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

That's the Second Age for you. None of the major characters is supposed to be likable, except maybe Elendil. This is not a story about heroism and self-sacrifice. It's a story where powerful people do stupid things out of pride, great empires fall, and almost everyone dies.

The peanut gallery does not like being reminded that their simplistic preferences make for poor art.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by Trasmatta »

doitLP wrote: post #168
JadoJodo wrote: post #24

I understand that Bezos spent a TON of money on this, but the way he’s forcing it is kinda crazy. The ads for it are EVERYWHERE. I was trying to check out at Whole Foods yesterday and had to sit through a 5s ad for it when I opened the Amazon shopping app (just to get to the Prime member barcode). Deleting reviews to “guarantee” success is just sad.

While I agree with the sentiment, this isn’t “Bezos pushing it”. Look at any big movie franchise — this is just standard pre release merchandizing tie ins. You want to make a release like this “a cultural event”. The latest Jurassic Park was everywhere. They even partnered with Walmart and decorated the outside of their buildings with giant posters of dinosaurs. I’m also remembering one of the Pirates of the Caribbea…

Jurassic Park never sent a push notification to my phone

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by retinaros »

I am the first one shouting about wokeness destroying shows but here it is not the case. the show is just cheap looking in the way its shot. why didnt they hire some teams from hbo?? the black elf character is actually cool and well acted, the dwarf character while horrible in the way they wrote it, is not really woke. its just bringing diversity to the show and definitly not something I am against.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by cloutchaser »

farleykr wrote: post #61

My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

The issue with characters you describe is linked to the whole thing though.

The philosophy behind the so called works IS to create a new type of hero, one that isn’t someone who takes responsibility, sacrifices, works hard and fails a lot.

That type of hero is purposefully removed from fiction because it contradicts what wokeness is about.

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Post by epakai »

pvaldes wrote: post #62
glogla wrote: post #50

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The tricky part is that even if the source material has no non-white people in it, the real world does and representation matters. If you cast diverse actors, you are less precise, but are making the world a (slightly) better place for underrepresented and disadvantaged people. If you don't, you are more precise and are making the world a (slightly) worse place for underrepresented and disadvantaged people. What of t…

Don't turn literature into politics, is much more important.

Things are inseparable. I mean you can write shallow stories, but anything attempting to map realistic worlds to fictional ones is going to have conflicts including those that are considered 'politics'.

The crux should be the writing, immersion, and ability to be invested in a story with these things.

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Post by stevehawk »

fredski42 wrote: post #5

Ah. Didn’t know IMDB was owned by Amazon. Put’s all ratings on Prime in a different perspective.

They bought IMDB like twenty years ago. It's how they originally knew which DVDs to stock in warehouses - by knowing which actors and films were researched by end users

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Post by trasz »

Lacerda69 wrote: post #11
trasz wrote: post #3

Nothing that’s controlled by a corporation can ever be trusted.

Nothing that’s controlled by someone else can ever be trusted [blindly and completely].

Of course, but with non-corporate entities you can take precautions; see Open Source projects. Corporations, on the other hand, have economic incentives to screw you over, and eventually always will.
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