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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Some percentage of those who left those 1-star rating may be pissed off enough to cancel their Prime subscription in protest. (It may also be true that some percentage of those who cancel Prime for this reason may rejoin Prime a couple of months from now when the Prime retention machine sends them a 'We miss you!' email trigger offering free trials of Prime for x months to get them back back).

I don’t even know how the gauge the success of something like this - in prime subscriptions not canceled?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Perhaps I'm an outlier. But, I thought I'd post my thoughts in case others get dissuaded from trying the show based on all the negative feedback. Note, I've only watched the first episode.

I watched the show with two other people, of very different interests and ages. We all enjoyed it immensely.

- The sets, costumes, and cinematography are fantastic and at times breath-taking. The level of detail in the costumes is amazing, and I can't really imagine them being better. - The acting is first-rate. IMO it's better overall than the acting in LoTR, or at least as good, and better than in most shows you'll watch. I did not see an actor that was not all-in for their role, and the many accents are beautifully done. This is the most important quality of any show for me. - The language in the script is elevated, and there are some beautiful lines. Scenes are allowed to develop, without the need for the rapid cuts many shows feature/rely on. - Plot is fine! I have not seen where it will go yet, but there are some big plot points, and subtle tensions developing. I had no problem here.

I love LoTR, but am not a dedicated Tolkien fan with rules about how things must be. I am fine with spin-offs, re-imaginings, alternate worlds, whatever! IMO the goal here is to entertain, to capture the imagination, and to do work that shows dedication to the craft and I think the show easily succeeds in all of those. I would probably watch a full season just for the production value alone.

Also, the whole race thing: What? To me it's a complete red herring and everyone in the show belongs there. This is not just gate-keeping, but racism plain and simple. If countering that racism is your only reason to watch the show, that's a good enough reason.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

> It becomes clear that the black blue fairy was put there to check a box

The movie is in English, using exclusively non-Italian actors , which in itself is checking a box. What difference does it make if they cast another non-Italian actor to play a role?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

I mean ... she's a fairy, not a human .. what does her skin have to do with the time period or place in which she appeared? And there's literally zero reason to insist that Collodi's description is the only way a fairy character can be portrayed in a staged version of his book. The real problem is getting upset over the skin color of the actors and actresses playing fairies (or stormtroopers or elves or angels or for…

> she's a fairy, not a human .. what does her skin have to do with the time period or place in which she appeared?

I mean, why can't we have a viking Black Panther and put Wakanda near Iceland?

> The real problem is getting upset over the skin color of the actors and actresses playing fairies

No one is upset for that, I, as Italian, am upset that some writer thinks that Collodi's story needed to be changed in ways that add nothing to it and also betray what he clearly wrote with his own hands.

The pale white skin is a well known proxy for ethereal/angelic beings, they are not white people, they are otherworldly magical creatures, made like that.

There were a lot more places where they could have added diversity, they decided to go for the most obviously controversial one.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I don't get reviews saying that TRoP, or some other new prestige TV series, is "terrible", or "a disaster", based on the first couple of episodes. Some really excellent TV series have taken more than a whole 26-episode season before they find their rhythm and get properly good. ST:TNG is a classic example, but I'm pretty sure you can come up with others. And some people are claiming that a new series totally worthles…

> I don't get reviews saying that TRoP, or some other new prestige TV series, is "terrible", or "a disaster", based on the first couple of episodes. There are only eight episodes, so if two first two suck then that's a quarter of the series/seasons that sucks. The first two episodes are also 90 minutes long, so we're three hours into the story. That's as long as the extended edition of The Fellowship of the Ring movi…

Episodes are 1h long, tho.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

Isn't it the case that race is acceptably mutable if it isn't germain to the story and that making all audiences feel more accepted and therefore happier is a laudable goal. Nothing woke about greater non white representation. Plenty snowflake about not wanting this.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Galadriel took part in the kinslaying at Alqualondë, she is totally a dick. The LOTR movies portrayed her in a much more positive light than the books. True heroes as you describe them exist only in your imagination and in fairy tales.

As if LotR isn’t the biggest fairy tale of all.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies proving himself to be worthy of honor and love You mean three books, right? The difference here is that Aragorn was written by Tolkien, this show wasn't and has completely betrayed the original material. Race or gender swaps are not a big issue, but they become one if the purpose is…

>Another example is the new Disney's Pinocchio, were the Blue Fairy is portrait by a black woman. The problem is not that she is black of course. but that the original story is set in Italy, Tuscany, mid 1800, were no black woman was ever seen It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case. And for the récord, i hope you open up a ge…

> It’s quite clear that that is YOUR problem. It’s funny when people like yourself claim “I’m not X” while then clear laying the case.

if you don't see a problem in changing someone else's literature and culture (I am Italian and have read Pinocchio since I was a kid) than you probably don't know what respect for different cultures is.

I would never think of a movie were Kunta Kinte is Dutch and is portrait by Chris Hemsworth.

Would you?

Also: my favourite roman emperor is

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus

He was black.

But in the small village in Tuscany of 1800 depicted in Pinocchio there were no black people, I can assure you.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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My issue with the show has nothing to do with the “woke” stuff mentioned here. I don’t like it because none of the heroes are likable. All of them have some form of sticking it to the man and doing what they want as their story line. True heroes are self-sacrificial and reluctant. Contrast Galadriel who acts like a self righteous dickhead with Aragorn who was reluctant to accept his calling spent and three movies pro…

Galadriel took part in the kinslaying at Alqualondë, she is totally a dick. The LOTR movies portrayed her in a much more positive light than the books. True heroes as you describe them exist only in your imagination and in fairy tales.

Galadriel in the Lord of the Rings books shows none of that. You only learn about it if you read the Silmarillion (and the other History of Middle-Earth books).

It's not at all unreasonable for her portrayal in the movies based on the LotR books to be...based on her portrayal in the LotR books, and not attempting to incorporate largely irrelevant details of her backstory from Tolkien's other writings.

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Interesting to contrast the IMDB rating with Rotten Tomatoes, not owned by Amazon, which currently has an audience rating of 38%. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... In my opinion, Steam does the best job of handling this tricky problem by leaving all reviews up and transparently letting the user pick whether or not to include periods of "unusual activity".

Nit: I'm seeing 36%.

People are still submitting ratings.
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