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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have trouble making sense of your comment.

I believe people would like the ratings of a show to reflect its quality and be somewhat informative. Brigading by a subpopulation with vastly different interest to the general public interferes with that and that legitimises removing their reviews as far as I’m concerned.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have not seen it myself, but every criticism I've read so far was complaining about "mandatory woke". Some reviews also mentioned other things they don't like, like costumes not being good or fights being cinematic instead of subdued or characters appearing where they shouldn't be if you take Silmarillion into accord ... but I have not read even one review that didn't include some version of "I hate it because it h…

This. I‘m guilty of relying quite heavily on reviews/star-ratings when deciding what to watch, and avoid low-rated movies/shows.

Until some years ago, I‘d just have a glance at the score/stars and make my decision.

By now, if something is rated low but my gut feeling tells me that it could be off, I always do a quick check of reviews, and 90% of the time I go „Okay, it’s the racists again“.

Also: „high critics score, low audience score on Rotten Tomatoes == racist and/or LGBTQ-haters being racist and/or LGBTQ-hating“ is a frighteningly precise heuristic.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Interesting to contrast the IMDB rating with Rotten Tomatoes, not owned by Amazon, which currently has an audience rating of 38%. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... In my opinion, Steam does the best job of handling this tricky problem by leaving all reviews up and transparently letting the user pick whether or not to include periods of "unusual activity".

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"Tolkien Fans" might be painting it a little broad, how about "a vocal subset of fans".

As for source material, there isn't a lot of source material on the Second Age. Also original movie trilogy didn't always stick to the source material.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have not seen it myself, but every criticism I've read so far was complaining about "mandatory woke". Some reviews also mentioned other things they don't like, like costumes not being good or fights being cinematic instead of subdued or characters appearing where they shouldn't be if you take Silmarillion into accord ... but I have not read even one review that didn't include some version of "I hate it because it h…

I don’t think all critics of “mandatory woke” can be boiled down to “I hate it because it has black people in it”. I mean I wouldn’t personally use the world woke because it looks mostly devoid of meaning but as a European, the mandatory diversity in American production has reached a point where it sometimes gets very funny. I don’t really mind it because it doesn’t affect the narrative structure of what you are watc…

There were black peoples, or at least Middle Eastern, all over Medieval Europe. The Arthurian cycle has moorish knights. When Eleanor of Aquitaine married the English king, part of her dowry was a North African city. Are we to believe none of them travelled to England? Berber pirates raided Iceland for slaves so there were whites people in Africa, why not black people in Europe?

Some people travelled a lot. The Saxons sent emissaries to what’s now Sri Lanka, while an Armenian Christian monk born in Beijing met the pope and Edward I. In Middle Earth the Numenorians had extensive colonies in the far south of the continent. This obsession with racial segregation is absurd and utterly ahistorical.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have not seen it myself, but every criticism I've read so far was complaining about "mandatory woke". Some reviews also mentioned other things they don't like, like costumes not being good or fights being cinematic instead of subdued or characters appearing where they shouldn't be if you take Silmarillion into accord ... but I have not read even one review that didn't include some version of "I hate it because it h…

Its so funny people would care about this for a fantasy world where there are actual different races of humans and elves and little guys.

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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have not seen it myself, but every criticism I've read so far was complaining about "mandatory woke". Some reviews also mentioned other things they don't like, like costumes not being good or fights being cinematic instead of subdued or characters appearing where they shouldn't be if you take Silmarillion into accord ... but I have not read even one review that didn't include some version of "I hate it because it h…

I am going to rock the boat a little. I am admittedly not a big Tolkien fan ( I think tried reading one book once and, to me, it was worse experience than Ulysses ). I can easily plead ignorance here. Are there any black guys mentioned in those books? If not, not sticking to script is a valid complaint ( see how annoyed people were with Game of Thrones departure -- it is not a question of race; it is a question of mo…

I‘m pretty sure there also aren’t that many US Americans mentioned in those books.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I have not seen it myself, but every criticism I've read so far was complaining about "mandatory woke". Some reviews also mentioned other things they don't like, like costumes not being good or fights being cinematic instead of subdued or characters appearing where they shouldn't be if you take Silmarillion into accord ... but I have not read even one review that didn't include some version of "I hate it because it h…

I am going to rock the boat a little. I am admittedly not a big Tolkien fan ( I think tried reading one book once and, to me, it was worse experience than Ulysses ). I can easily plead ignorance here. Are there any black guys mentioned in those books? If not, not sticking to script is a valid complaint ( see how annoyed people were with Game of Thrones departure -- it is not a question of race; it is a question of mo…

Minor roles only as southerners "middelearth-terranean" pirates. LOT mimicks the Tolkien World, that was European and catholic, and roots deep in European mythology and about experiencing World War.

There is not a lot of room to introduce Asian or African characters in that history and they can distract easily from the immersion. Is not different that seeing white actors posing as American natives in old films with a ridiculous hairpiece and make up. Nobody expects forcing an African character in Chinese mythology, or imposing a white character in each African film, and this is perfectly Ok. Why shouldn't be ok?

The current trend to flood histories with stereotypes to please every single possible viewer is frankly annoying. I'm fearing the appearance of the bullied gay dwarf at any moment.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Interesting to contrast the IMDB rating with Rotten Tomatoes, not owned by Amazon, which currently has an audience rating of 38%. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... In my opinion, Steam does the best job of handling this tricky problem by leaving all reviews up and transparently letting the user pick whether or not to include periods of "unusual activity".

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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their core audience, for example Star Wars, Wheel of Time, Halo, etc.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Its so funny people would care about this for a fantasy world where there are actual different races of humans and elves and little guys.

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As video gamers have it - there's only two races: white and "political", only two genders: male and "political" and don't forget the only two sexual orientations: straight and "political".
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