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Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by sph »

api wrote: post #10

Nothing can equal Twitter as the place for the rich and powerful to make complete fools of themselves. It’s got that niche locked down. Also seems to have the online lynch mob niche pretty solid. Mastodon is good for communities and tech chat.

Given the amount of times I see Mastodon threads posted on this forum (very rarely), I'm not sure it's good for tech chat.

We talk about Mastodon the tech a lot, but I don't see it linked very much outside of meta discussion about the platform.

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by puyoxyz »

What!!! No!!! You’re not supposed to have multiple accounts !!! Mastodon federates !! The whole point is that you can have an account on one server and then follow and interact with people on other servers !! That is literally the whole point!!!!

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by sidlls »

betwixthewires wrote: post #48
sidlls wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that multiple companies have those numbers indicates the numbers are in fact “normal”. What isn’t normal is continuing to insist that the typical person cares enough about the ideology that motivates projects like Mastodon in spite of the literally hundreds and thousands of failed projects indicating the contrary.

I dont know what hundreds of thousands of projects you're talking about, or what ideology for that matter. It isn't about ideology. I can actually talk to hundreds of thousands of people and say whatever I want. Whatever I want. And they can too. And nobody comes in and tells us to do anything. And there's not a bunch of political influencers and journalists coming around trying to tell us what to think, there's no b…

The people who view Mastodon as a Twitter disruptor care.

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by puyoxyz »

sohkamyung wrote: post #68

The good thing about having multiple Mastodon servers is you can sign up for multiple accounts (one on each server) and use each one for a specific purpose. I have three separate Mastodon accounts: one for general postings, one for posting photos only, and one for book reviews. Followers can choose which 'aspect' of me to follow and ignore the rest. This is unlike Twitter, where followers have no choice but to put up…

You can have multiple accounts on Twitter; it’s allowed and even encouraged since both the mobile app and the web app have an account switcher, and TweetDeck lets you use multiple accounts at once IIRC.

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by M2Ys4U »

assetlabel wrote: post #50
gargron wrote: post #39

The author seems under to be under the wrong impression that Mastodon servers are isolated communities (and therefore compares them to subreddits). This is incorrect. Mastodon is a platform where a server of your choosing hosts your account, like an e-mail provider hosting your inbox. From that account, you follow any other account on the network, regardless of which server hosts that account. Everyone you follow app…

This is only true among mastodon servers that connect to each other. As I recall, most servers would not talk to gab's servers. Further, once you pick a server, if you are kicked off, you lose all your followers because they are following you@thatserver which you cannot get onto anymore.

>This is only true among mastodon servers that connect to each other.

Most do, the default is open federation.

> As I recall, most servers would not talk to gab's servers.

It's hardly a surprise that most people don't want to associate with neo-Nazis and others with similar worthless ideologies.

The fact that admins can firewall off instances if they're are run by arseholes is a good thing.

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by rosmax_1337 »

All social media plattforms that manage to fill their niche early and well, like twitter did, become natural monopolies. The main draw of the user to sign up for twitter, becomes the large user base, and people signing up for twitter enlargens the user base.

All social media should begin to be viewed through this lens if we are ever going to make any progress with creating better online tech, because each and every single one of these monopolies are currently levereraging their positions in the economoy to influence politics and society at large in a very toxic way.

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by phoe-krk »

assetlabel wrote: post #50
gargron wrote: post #39

The author seems under to be under the wrong impression that Mastodon servers are isolated communities (and therefore compares them to subreddits). This is incorrect. Mastodon is a platform where a server of your choosing hosts your account, like an e-mail provider hosting your inbox. From that account, you follow any other account on the network, regardless of which server hosts that account. Everyone you follow app…

This is only true among mastodon servers that connect to each other. As I recall, most servers would not talk to gab's servers. Further, once you pick a server, if you are kicked off, you lose all your followers because they are following you@thatserver which you cannot get onto anymore.

> This is only true among mastodon servers that connect to each other. As I recall, most servers would not talk to gab's servers.

Being able to choose which other servers your server federates with is a feature, not a bug.

> you lose all your followers because they are following you@thatserver which you cannot get onto anymore.

Not true as of recent (May 2022 or so) versions of Mastodon.

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by snickerbockers »

gargron wrote: post #39

The author seems under to be under the wrong impression that Mastodon servers are isolated communities (and therefore compares them to subreddits). This is incorrect. Mastodon is a platform where a server of your choosing hosts your account, like an e-mail provider hosting your inbox. From that account, you follow any other account on the network, regardless of which server hosts that account. Everyone you follow app…

Fediverse has the unique problem (or benefit depending on your perspective) of the instance owners being able to cut their users off from other instances, which is unheard of in email. At face value this is done to keep users from being tormented by pedophiles and internet nazis, but my experience is that most of the server admins get a weird power trip out of blocking things, and will overzealously block anything that they personally find offensive or disagreeable.

This extreme amount of curation is why each fediverse instance is its own community. You only get to experience fediverse through the lens of your instance admin's moderation policy.

Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by snickerbockers »

phoe-krk wrote: post #77
assetlabel wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is only true among mastodon servers that connect to each other. As I recall, most servers would not talk to gab's servers. Further, once you pick a server, if you are kicked off, you lose all your followers because they are following you@thatserver which you cannot get onto anymore.

> This is only true among mastodon servers that connect to each other. As I recall, most servers would not talk to gab's servers. Being able to choose which other servers your server federates with is a feature, not a bug. > you lose all your followers because they are following you@thatserver which you cannot get onto anymore. Not true as of recent (May 2022 or so) versions of Mastodon.

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Re: Mastodon still can’t replace Twitter

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Post by rsolva »

sohkamyung wrote: post #68

The good thing about having multiple Mastodon servers is you can sign up for multiple accounts (one on each server) and use each one for a specific purpose. I have three separate Mastodon accounts: one for general postings, one for posting photos only, and one for book reviews. Followers can choose which 'aspect' of me to follow and ignore the rest. This is unlike Twitter, where followers have no choice but to put up…

You should check out bookwyrm.social for posting book reviews! It is a federated Goodreads alternative that makes it easy to share my book-related activity via my Mastodon account, and to keep track of my reading progression, quotes, reviews etc.

I REALLY like the idea (and practial implementation) of linking different domains of information together trough an open standard like ActivityPub!

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