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Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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I’m more surprised by the apparent editing error where the only sex worker evidently quoted is characterized as female throughout the piece except in one instance. I think the intent of the editorial missed-a-spot was greater anonymity provisions by default. I doubt it harmed the particular interviewee in this instance, but that kind of slippery protection of sources certainly won’t encourage more sex workers to talk…

Nearly all sex workers (97% in stats I found) are cisgender or transgender women, so that in itself doesn’t seem to significantly de-anonymize them.

The editing mistake wasn’t deciding whether to identify the interviewee’s gender, but revealing part of their internal privacy process by missing it in edit. It doesn’t matter, for being interviewed, what proportion of sex workers are any gender if the publication reveals flaws in how they protect anonymity of the people they interview. I spotted this with a very cursory read, and distrust the publication on instinct. Again not because I care about the gender of the single sex worker interviewed, but because I don’t think their editorial process was thorough enough to protect one source.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Creator of pornpen.ai here, looks like this discussion is ramping up again! Wanted to respond to some of the points made here and in the article. The grotesque images: Simply put, the model is not good enough yet. This will improve over time as the models get better. Diversity/male gaze/heteronormative: Generating men and other genders did not yield very high quality results unfortunately, so I didn't include it in t…

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Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Creator of pornpen.ai here, looks like this discussion is ramping up again! Wanted to respond to some of the points made here and in the article. The grotesque images: Simply put, the model is not good enough yet. This will improve over time as the models get better. Diversity/male gaze/heteronormative: Generating men and other genders did not yield very high quality results unfortunately, so I didn't include it in t…

I'm just happy for it to take 5 minutes to retrieve a single picture again.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

#64
So after killing the work of digital illustrators, the next target is sex workers.

Next are actors, screenwriters (gpt-4), all creative industries will fall down.

How much time before Neural Nets remove all UX/UI design, frontend development and other programming related tasks?

5 years? 10 years?

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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post #36

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I think this is a very interesting question that is being systematically sidestepped in these debates. Sexual preferences are a given; some people are attracted to the opposite sex, some people are attracted to the same sex, some people are attracted to children. Nothing they (or anyone) can do about it, lest one decides to indulge in so-called "conversion therapy". Of course, children can't consent, and abusing chil…

>doesn't hurt anybody You're looking at it too narrowly. AI-generated CSAM may facilitate a sexual interest in children among certain individuals. Development of such an interest makes it significantly more likely they will abuse children. So it ought be illegal.

Does watching gay porn make you gay too?

Why on Earth any normal person would specifically look for CSAM material be it AI generated or not? I doubt that many people who seen something sickening on internet immediately became attracted to it and huge percent of people who use internet for 10+ years seen all kind of terrible things. Unfortunately anyone who hosted or moderated online communities had to deal with a lot of terrible things.

Also we have whole army of youtube / facebook / twitter moderators who actually see CSAM daily and we dont have stories about everyone of them turning into child-abusers. Though it's proven that this kind of job can make person mentally ill, but for completely different reasons.

PS: Again be it AI generated or not I totally sure that CSAM should stay banned from sharing. But I dont give a damn about what you paint, generate and watch on your own PC.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly all sex workers (97% in stats I found) are cisgender or transgender women, so that in itself doesn’t seem to significantly de-anonymize them.

The editing mistake wasn’t deciding whether to identify the interviewee’s gender, but revealing part of their internal privacy process by missing it in edit. It doesn’t matter, for being interviewed, what proportion of sex workers are any gender if the publication reveals flaws in how they protect anonymity of the people they interview. I spotted this with a very cursory read, and distrust the publication on instinct…

Ah, thanks for the explanation. From an editorial POV, what makes you think it was a mistake?

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

#68

> But it’s still depressing how both the options and defaults replicate a very heteronormative and male gaze I don’t understand this particular aspect of fretting. Do the people making such comments think this won’t be applied eventually to all sexual preferences? Given that heteronormative male gaze drives the vast majority of porn consumption, doesn’t seem surprising that that’s where this kind of thing starts at f…

Making comments like this is just obligatory throat-clearing now, especially if you're in academia, which the quote source is. At this point I just fnord right over them and move on.

Learned a new word today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fnord

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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post #64

So after killing the work of digital illustrators, the next target is sex workers. Next are actors, screenwriters (gpt-4), all creative industries will fall down. How much time before Neural Nets remove all UX/UI design, frontend development and other programming related tasks? 5 years? 10 years?

Could it be that the world will be a better place if everyone can express themselves fully in the media of digital art, acting, screenwriting and eventually all creative industries cheaply and easily? Artistic expression won't be gate kept by art school educations, Hollywood connections, and access to the tools of the trade. Every person will be able to bring their inner ideas to life with a flair of expertise. This is not a given, but certainly a possible optimistic one.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The editing mistake wasn’t deciding whether to identify the interviewee’s gender, but revealing part of their internal privacy process by missing it in edit. It doesn’t matter, for being interviewed, what proportion of sex workers are any gender if the publication reveals flaws in how they protect anonymity of the people they interview. I spotted this with a very cursory read, and distrust the publication on instinct…

Ah, thanks for the explanation. From an editorial POV, what makes you think it was a mistake?

Just seeing several “she”, with direct references to the interviewee, and one “they” that felt really out of place and didn’t feel like a fully formed section of the article.
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