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Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by mgdlbp »

dreampen wrote: post #34

Creator of pornpen.ai here, looks like this discussion is ramping up again! Wanted to respond to some of the points made here and in the article. The grotesque images: Simply put, the model is not good enough yet. This will improve over time as the models get better. Diversity/male gaze/heteronormative: Generating men and other genders did not yield very high quality results unfortunately, so I didn't include it in t…

Don't fret, AIDungeon already had its run, with plenty of slash fiction in its dataset.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by lvass »

ceejayoz wrote: post #35
Jensson wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But is it a crime to possess an algorithm that can generate CP? You don't possess the images, it just generates them. If it is a crime then it means any model which can generate CP under any circumstances will be illegal.

Once it generates them, at your request, you possess them. Don't count on the legal system to go "haha you got me touché" on this.

If that's how it works, these AI models _really_ should prevent taking queries with "child" in them. Imagine you have one of these AIs installed, all you need is to stroke six keyboard keys to face a 20+ years criminal charge (of the type your ass is not spared). A bad actor with a few seconds in front of your screen could take this hell upon you. Having something like this installed in a laptop is equivalent to leaving your unlocked gun on a table pointed at you in public.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by fortran77 »

dreampen wrote: post #44
fortran77 wrote: post #7

FTA: > that is, until you reach her torso, where three arms spit out of her shoulders. I haven't tried generating porn, but as a pianist I tried to get both DALL-E and stable diffusion to generate pictures of pianists with 3 arms and I've never had it produce a picture of a person with 3 arms. I assumed that's because there's no training material for it to base it on.

(NSFW images below) I think what happens is that in the early stages of generation, the model picks up on arm-like structures and just keeps building it out. It doesn't realize that the overall structure will be flawed later on. (3 arms) https://pornpen.ai/view/B8DguHKatzDvRk7esEX9 (bonus, 3 breasts) https://pornpen.ai/view/vZ2XbVHRNTEX5kWqOLJA

It's amazing how "normal" 3 breasts look! (Dislclaimer: I'm a 59 year old gay man and have little experience with human female breasts).

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by bjourne »

dreampen wrote: post #34

Creator of pornpen.ai here, looks like this discussion is ramping up again! Wanted to respond to some of the points made here and in the article. The grotesque images: Simply put, the model is not good enough yet. This will improve over time as the models get better. Diversity/male gaze/heteronormative: Generating men and other genders did not yield very high quality results unfortunately, so I didn't include it in t…

Why are the default tags babe, busty, perfect boobs, skinny, and perfect body?

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by ceejayoz »

lvass wrote: post #52
ceejayoz wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once it generates them, at your request, you possess them. Don't count on the legal system to go "haha you got me touché" on this.

If that's how it works, these AI models _really_ should prevent taking queries with "child" in them. Imagine you have one of these AIs installed, all you need is to stroke six keyboard keys to face a 20+ years criminal charge (of the type your ass is not spared). A bad actor with a few seconds in front of your screen could take this hell upon you. Having something like this installed in a laptop is equivalent to leav…

> A bad actor with a few seconds in front of your screen could take this hell upon you.

This has already been the case for quite some time. AI doesn't really add anything new to that part of the equation.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by aivoyeur »

I downloaded the latest Stable Diffusion model yesterday evening, and I've been playing with it all day.

The current model isn't very good at portraying any specific sexual act - but I imagine that will change soon enough.

It's already great at producing "tasteful nudes", which fortunately aligns well with my personal tastes.

Here are some of the highlights from my tinkering (NSFW, obviously)

https://imgur.com/a/S81Vom6

(some images have received minor touch-ups, such as cropping or hiding mangled hands - it's not very good at those)

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

dudul wrote: post #12
fyvhbhn wrote: post #6

I wonder if this could help pedophile people since generated porn wouldn't imply abuse of children.

I may be mistaken but wasn't there some cases of people convicted for owning drawings of CP?

Photoshops of adult bodies with non-adult heads.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by torbTurret »

bjourne wrote: post #54
dreampen wrote: post #34

Creator of pornpen.ai here, looks like this discussion is ramping up again! Wanted to respond to some of the points made here and in the article. The grotesque images: Simply put, the model is not good enough yet. This will improve over time as the models get better. Diversity/male gaze/heteronormative: Generating men and other genders did not yield very high quality results unfortunately, so I didn't include it in t…

Why are the default tags babe, busty, perfect boobs, skinny, and perfect body?

I’ll guess because those are popular porn categories. What would you prefer they be?

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by dreampen »

bjourne wrote: post #54
dreampen wrote: post #34

Creator of pornpen.ai here, looks like this discussion is ramping up again! Wanted to respond to some of the points made here and in the article. The grotesque images: Simply put, the model is not good enough yet. This will improve over time as the models get better. Diversity/male gaze/heteronormative: Generating men and other genders did not yield very high quality results unfortunately, so I didn't include it in t…

Why are the default tags babe, busty, perfect boobs, skinny, and perfect body?

Good question. I figured that many people who come to the site will just press generate right away without realizing you can choose tags. When 0 tags are selected, you get weird results. So I wanted to make a good default selection. But maybe a better option is to force users to select some tags first, and start empty?

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Post by dannyw »

hn_throwaway_69 wrote: post #48
gruez wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this backed empirically? The argument you made is almost identical to the ones used for "grand theft auto is making kids violent!".

There's no reason to make such material lawful unless the converse is proved by empirical evidence. That is, can it be proved that people who view AI-based material are less likely to act on a sexual interest in real children? Unless that's proven, there's no other reason to make such material lawful. You're welcome to provide one. The analogy is not apt. You cannot compare image-based abuse of children with a video…

We live in a society where things are allowed by default and banned if they cause harm, not a society where things are banned by default and allowed if they are proven to not cause harm.
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