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Re: Cannabis legalization decreases stock market value of major pharmaceutical firms

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Post by notch656a »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #139
loudmax wrote: post #106

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I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush. I'm in favor regulating access to firearms just as we regulate access to driving, but it depends a lot on your circumstances. A lot of people who buy a gun to protect their family are probably protecting their own egos more than anything else. But there are circumstances where responsible ownership of a firearm for self defense is perfectly reasonable. Of course, none of this…

> But there are circumstances where responsible ownership of a firearm for self defense is perfectly reasonable. No. That’s where we deeply disagree and that’s why I never actually feel safe when I have to visit the USA.

You're not a US resident but you know that no person in the US has depended on a firearm to protect their family?

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Post by scarface74 »

giantg2 wrote: post #118
spookthesunset wrote: post #111

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The odds of lying about marijuana use on that form coming back to haunt me is effectively 0%. I'm not loosing any sleep over it!

Unless you have a documented use, like a card. Then the risk goes way up because it's easy for them to search.

I think you give the government too much credit still. In Florida for instance, ex-convicts registered to vote at the county office and were told they could based on a new law. The county clerks gave them bad information and they were still arrested.

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Post by oaththrowaway »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #77
notch656a wrote: post #7

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I think a lot more people would switch to weed if: 1) You couldn't get a DUI at T+1-2 days after smoking. Many states including my own, merely need to show marijuana metabolites in your blood to convict for DUI. 2) Gun rights. You're staring down the barrel of 5+ years in jail of the feds find you in possession of weed with a firearm, even if pot is legal in your state. Until those two things are fixed, anyone who de…

1 is a serious problem. 2 is self inflicted. As no one depends on a firearm to protect their family, the solution is simple. Just don’t own a firearm.

What a terribly privileged thing to say

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Post by notch656a »

oaththrowaway wrote: post #143
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #77

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1 is a serious problem. 2 is self inflicted. As no one depends on a firearm to protect their family, the solution is simple. Just don’t own a firearm.

What a terribly privileged thing to say

This person is not a US resident and is spitballing based on whatever view they got from visiting, which apparently they very much dislike.

Re: Cannabis legalization decreases stock market value of major pharmaceutical firms

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Post by swatcoder »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #95
swatcoder wrote: post #34

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Pretty sure Netflix and Spotify do alright with less than that. And it’s not even accounting for those premium tier subscriptions that come with trendy new formulations not yet acknowledged as dangerous.

You are saying that selling something for $14 per month with no information about cost of goods sold or sales volume is sufficient to conclude one is doing “alright”? FYI, Spotify has only ever lost money: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/SPOT/spotify-techn...

That was precisely the point I was making to the commenter I replied to (unit price doesn’t determine business scale on its own), but interesting info on Spotify regardless.

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Post by scarface74 »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #140
scarface74 wrote: post #101

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I’m far away from a gun nut. I don’t see the need to carry and I am more worried about getting shot by the police because I both “fit the description” and “don’t look like I belong” in my own neighborhood than I am a criminal shooting me. But I very much believe in gun ownership in the home - especially properly secured. If someone breaks into my home, they prima facie mean me harm. They will get shot without a secon…

Yes, that’s exactly what you should do. Breaking in followed by violence are mostly an imaginary problem anyway. You are far more likely to mistakenly shoot someone who incorrectly thought was breaking in than ever having to defend yourself.

So I’m suppose to ask someone who broke in my house “do you mean me harm”? There are only two other people who should come in my house unannounced and as soon as they come in the alarm will sound and they know how to turn it off. One of those people sleep next to me.

If you’re breaking in, I’m assuming violence.

The odds of burglary is 1/36

https://policyadvice.net/insurance/insights/burglary-statist...

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Post by ceejayoz »

tingol wrote: post #114
bobthepanda wrote: post #92

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Weed is a plant that can rot. This makes its transport more finicky, and more bulky. Pills are much easier to transport, particularly fentanyl with its small dosing amount. And one of the most dangerous things is meth, since recently it’s now being developed from shelf-stable chemicals. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new...

That's silly. Weed is exactly that, a WEED, it grows freaking everywhere why the need for transport?

Salad grows pretty much everywhere, but we still transport most of it from Mexico or California, with a pretty hefty set of infrastructure components from farms to hordes of pickers to refridgerated trains to grocery stores.

(It's also not a weed, really, just like it's not a pot.)

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Post by bern4444 »

What I always fail to understand about these situations is why an incumbent firm wouldn't latch on to this to beat out their competitors.

You can see this in energy companies' hesitation to accept and invest in renewable energy. Until the last few years they all stayed far far away from it.

Perhaps this is all the result of their existing vested interests - but I'm constantly surprised just how little these massive incumbents resist new ideas that really can instead give them a competitive advantage against their peers.

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Post by mod »

Zagill wrote: post #138
mod wrote: post #87

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I was about 21, they prescribed 24 pills I think? I used one, and really just a preemptive use before I went to work (I only took a half day off). The weird thing is, though, I felt very normal at work. I had never tried a drug, so I wasn't sure what to look for, but I just felt normal. No pain, no other effects. I have some from a dentist thing last year, too, and I would say similar now, but with a mild high. I was…

Yeah that was basically my experience. I took a few of them but nothing noticeable happened so I just didn't bother taking more. Funny enough that was also true when I tried a couple ADHD meds. Didn't feel a difference, not even withdrawal symptoms from going cold turkey after a few months. Maybe I'm just weird...

Same--tried adderall twice, couldn't tell the difference.

I'm not high-caffeine intake or anything either. Nothing that should mask it.

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Post by tastyfreeze »

yamtaddle wrote: post #61
meroes wrote: post #6

Yay. Recreational marijauna user here and opioids scare the crap out of me. Had to take 10 oxycodone after a surgery and if they can hand those out they can hand out marijauna capsules or whatever. It's really that simple.

I've had pain killers prescribed maybe a half-dozen times and the only one for which pot wouldn't have been at least as good was the time I had fairly serious abdominal surgery—and even in that case, I'm not 100% sure weed wouldn't have done the job. Plus, they usually prescribe me way more than I want or need—I may take one or two pills, and they prescribe me six or eight or ten—which inflates sales for these compan…

After minor abdominal surgery I found that the prescribed opiates made the pain go away to where I felt like I could do everything I normally did. So, instead of resting like I should have I would try to do things and be in serious pain when the opiates wore off. Cannabis, on the other hand, I could still feel the pain but I could put it in the back of my mind. This allowed me to be aware that I needed to rest and heal and not be completely focused on the pain. I stopped taking the opiates after the first day.
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