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Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
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Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#22The Polish government is being pulled in a few interesting directions. For instance, as of 20 Sep, 2021: Poland must pay a daily penalty of €500,000 ($585,550) for ignoring a previous order from the European Union’s top court to cease operations at the Turow lignite mine, with its CEO slamming the fine as “bizarre”. On Monday, the EU’s Court of Justice (CJEU) confirmed it was enforcing the financial penalty against W…
> The Polish government is being pulled in a few interesting directions. For instance, as of 20 Sep, 2021:
> Poland must pay a daily penalty of €500,000 ($585,550) for ignoring a previous order from the European Union’s top court to cease operations at the Turow lignite mine, with its CEO slamming the fine as “bizarre”.
> On Monday, the EU’s Court of Justice (CJEU) confirmed it was enforcing the financial penalty against Warsaw, stating that Poland must pay the European Commission the daily half-million euro fine until it sees compliance with the earlier order.
> Judges from the Luxembourg-based court said that the fine is “necessary… to deter that member state from delaying bringing its conduct into line with that order.”
> https://twitter.com/EUCourtPress/status/1439940814046744581?...
> The Czech Republic took legal action against Poland in February over activities at the mine, which also sits close to the German border, claiming that it spoiled its citizens’ drinking water. After Warsaw failed to obey the court orders in May to “immediately cease lignite extraction activities at the mine”, Prague asked the court to fine Poland €5 million per day.
> Poland is widely hated by its neighbors for the existence of this mine. The mine is also in a hilarious geographic location if you look it up on the map. It's BARELY within the country.
Wow. Turów Brown Coal Mine https://maps.app.goo.gl/3GZHsBabN8rwPqZTA
Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#23I've been hearing this for years just google: "poland reparations before:2022" what has changed this time?
The rise of the polish right wing, which uses this as part of a victimhood narrative.
Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#24Or else they would carve up Western Ukraine with Russian approval.
Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
This particular one? I doubt, but there are theories in major newspapers (Polityka, Gazeta Wyborcza, Newsweek) that Antoni Macierewicz (former defence minister, a major PiS politician) is a Russian agent or otherwise connected with Russia, as such connections pop up all around his circle of friends.
The point of disinformation is not to out someone but to destroy trust in all information. So you actually can't decide is it a truth or not, is it Russia that is trying to saw discord or is he truly a Russian agent.
So people still trust any information?
Personally I've lost mine ages ago. There is no way to discern truth from propaganda without investing an unsustainable amount of time researching. The internet ceased to be a source of truth when the people with motive realized that the populous get their information from it.
It's fine for technical learning and easily proven facts, but any political information or any with significant economical impact should be considered propaganda, as for every person that actually knows anything about the topic there will be 10 that are paid to spread some agenda
Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#26Seems fairly likely the FSB is behind this. What better way to fracture unity for the two European states most involved in the Ukraine war?
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Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#27Remember that time Germany paid reparations after WWI? It experienced hyperinflation to combat it and elected a nationalist leader.
Remember when France paid even more in 1815 and 1871 and didn't went on a genocidal rampage on their neighbors?
> Remember when France paid even more in 1815 and 1871 and didn't went on a genocidal rampage on their neighbors?
I don't know that I'd say that, like I who to blame for WWI is a very contentious subject and ultimately I'd say that the blame does rest on the German leaders, including the Kasier and German General Staff, but to pretend France has no culpability is a little disingenuous. I'd say that WWI was pretty much every European country going on a genocidal rampage on their neighbors, just because the French weren't very effective at keeping it on their neighbors soil doesn't mean they aren't responsible.
Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#28And here I am still waiting on my 40 acres and mule they were supposed to give my great great grandfather.
Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
This particular one? I doubt, but there are theories in major newspapers (Polityka, Gazeta Wyborcza, Newsweek) that Antoni Macierewicz (former defence minister, a major PiS politician) is a Russian agent or otherwise connected with Russia, as such connections pop up all around his circle of friends.
The point of disinformation is not to out someone but to destroy trust in all information. So you actually can't decide is it a truth or not, is it Russia that is trying to saw discord or is he truly a Russian agent.
> is it Russia that is trying to saw discord or is he truly a Russian agent.
Is it Russia or is it Russia?
Re: Poland plans to seek $1.3T in reparations from Germany for WWII
#30The Polish government is being pulled in a few interesting directions. For instance, as of 20 Sep, 2021: Poland must pay a daily penalty of €500,000 ($585,550) for ignoring a previous order from the European Union’s top court to cease operations at the Turow lignite mine, with its CEO slamming the fine as “bizarre”. On Monday, the EU’s Court of Justice (CJEU) confirmed it was enforcing the financial penalty against W…
So it looks like this mine produces coal which I am assuming is used for power generation. Don't know if I can blame them for not shutting it down while the message coming from the rest of Europe is that everyone's going to be doing an IRL game of Frostpunk this winter.
what do you expect? The european union is widely known for strange and impractical decisions.
A few of its members basically drag the rest along for bad decisions and the smaller guy follow because they need that sweet sweet eu money.