America Has an E-Bike Problem That Can’t Be Solved with More E-Bikes
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Re: America Has an E-Bike Problem That Can’t Be Solved with More E-Bikes
#2The first part of the article is basically “I’m sorry, so sorry, that I’m about to say something online cosmopolitan types won’t like, please, I’m so sorry, I promise I don’t mean it like that, I’m sorry, I promise I am not saying that, did I mention that I’m sorry”.
This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America.
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#3> He says e-bikes have an “identity crisis” because they do not fit within any neatly defined buckets in American transportation and therefore don’t pass on any identity to their users.
> The article was widely panned on Twitter, mostly by the usual pro-bike, pro-active streets, anti-car constituency. To be clear, I am a member of that constituency;
What the hell is wrong with people. Is this really how people think?
Re: America Has an E-Bike Problem That Can’t Be Solved with More E-Bikes
#4I disagree with the issue being that eBikes are too fast for cyclist lanes. At least in Silicon Valley (long uninterrupted blocks), the main problem is that eBikes accelerate much faster than normal bikes, but a typical road biker cruises at 22-25 mph. This means some inconsiderate eBikes overtake regular bikes in the 100ft immediately after a stop, then block the bike lane for the next few minutes because they're capped below normal bike speed.
If they're going to have mandatory governors, they should govern the acceleration curve, not the top speed (that would solve the NYC problem), and/or bump the max speed to 25mph (solving the suburbs problem).
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#5The first part of the article is basically “I’m sorry, so sorry, that I’m about to say something online cosmopolitan types won’t like, please, I’m so sorry, I promise I don’t mean it like that, I’m sorry, I promise I am not saying that, did I mention that I’m sorry”. This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America.
> This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America.
Pretty much all Tesla buyers, when complaining about their car, says "I love the car but". Even if you're anonymous, you need to pay lip service to your groups online, otherwise the online mob well... mobs you.
Its just the internet. In real life, we use subtle clues, like hair-cuts, styles, tattoos, clothing, to differentiate ourselves and indicate our viewpoints / set expectations.
Here on the internet, we only have words to set expectations. "I love the car but" says "I'm a fan of Tesla, don't hate me too badly".
"I like public transportation and live in a city but..." and other such indicators are just real-life emotions seeping into the discussion. As it should be. Its how humans act and its probably best if we accepted it rather than pretended we were unemotional, perfectly rational beings typing away on a keyboard over here.
Re: America Has an E-Bike Problem That Can’t Be Solved with More E-Bikes
#6> He says e-bikes have an “identity crisis” because they do not fit within any neatly defined buckets in American transportation and therefore don’t pass on any identity to their users. > The article was widely panned on Twitter, mostly by the usual pro-bike, pro-active streets, anti-car constituency. To be clear, I am a member of that constituency; What the hell is wrong with people. Is this really how people think?
I think some people like to build their identity by what brands of clothes/food/etc. they buy, what actions they take to "make the world better" in their eyes.
I don't know - I think identity is more how you interact with people on a social, talking level and not what you decide to trade in your simoleons for on payday.
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#7The first part of the article is basically “I’m sorry, so sorry, that I’m about to say something online cosmopolitan types won’t like, please, I’m so sorry, I promise I don’t mean it like that, I’m sorry, I promise I am not saying that, did I mention that I’m sorry”. This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America.
> This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America. Pretty much all Tesla buyers, when complaining about their car, says "I love the car but". Even if you're anonymous, you need to pay lip service to your groups online, otherwise the online mob well... mobs you. Its just the internet. In real life, we use subtle clues, like hair-cuts, styles, tattoos, clothing, to differentiate ourselves a…
People didn't used to be like this. There was more tolerance for people you didn't agree with.
Re: America Has an E-Bike Problem That Can’t Be Solved with More E-Bikes
#8The first part of the article is basically “I’m sorry, so sorry, that I’m about to say something online cosmopolitan types won’t like, please, I’m so sorry, I promise I don’t mean it like that, I’m sorry, I promise I am not saying that, did I mention that I’m sorry”. This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America.
Actually, what you’ve noticed is a symptom of the opposite case being far to prevalent in America.
Because it’s so common that utterly specious and biased critiques are plonked down and basically screamed out by individuals or groups with vested interests the public has become jaded. And on the internet it’s doubly so.
Due to those wolf criers, people have to go above and beyond to establish their credibility and motive to show they are worth taking seriously.
It makes a lot of sense given how things are
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America. Pretty much all Tesla buyers, when complaining about their car, says "I love the car but". Even if you're anonymous, you need to pay lip service to your groups online, otherwise the online mob well... mobs you. Its just the internet. In real life, we use subtle clues, like hair-cuts, styles, tattoos, clothing, to differentiate ourselves a…
People didn't used to be like this. There was more tolerance for people you didn't agree with.
Not really. Lived in the 90s in the US, people were even more tight-lipped because dissenting opinions on a lot of things were not even mentioned in the first place.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is what it’s like to share ideas under your real name in modern America. Pretty much all Tesla buyers, when complaining about their car, says "I love the car but". Even if you're anonymous, you need to pay lip service to your groups online, otherwise the online mob well... mobs you. Its just the internet. In real life, we use subtle clues, like hair-cuts, styles, tattoos, clothing, to differentiate ourselves a…
People didn't used to be like this. There was more tolerance for people you didn't agree with.
What? When?
The vi vs emacs flamewars were intense. I've seen literal death threats thrown out online over which assembly language to use, or PS2 vs XBox flamewars. Trolls, even back in the day, would try to trick people into clicking pornography on children video game forums.
People have always been assholes online.
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Offline, casual racism and stereotypes rule. Which is why people focus so much on dress and mannerisms, so that your first impression is "correct", and you have a reasonable social interaction. How you talk, or stutter, or accents, or skin color, etc. etc. It matters more often than not.
It "shouldn't", but it does. These things seep into the online discussion space.