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Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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And people wonder why EU citizens data should never leave EU to USA without any legal guarantees from USA.

The great Chinese firewall is far more effective than the GDPR. They outright ban US corporations such as Google or Facebook from operating in their country or retain control over the data and networks of companies such as Apple.

Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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The root of this investigation was the EFF. If you make tech money, you can toss $50 their way without any hesitation. https://supporters.eff.org/donate You'll get some cool swag and, more importantly, ensure that they continue their excellent work.

I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

> is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support?

For fifty dollars, no. If you’re giving more substantially, of course.

Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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The root of this investigation was the EFF. If you make tech money, you can toss $50 their way without any hesitation. https://supporters.eff.org/donate You'll get some cool swag and, more importantly, ensure that they continue their excellent work.

I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

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Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

>that are unrelated to their main goal given that we're commenting on a thread about invasive police surveillance it's pretty funny to think there's no very obvious correlation to immigration. Which groups do you think are among the most targeted by law enforcement surveillance tech? People who get hung up on this, what's the underlying mindset? "I love privacy for white dudes, but god forbid they accidentally help a…

Surveillance and what's illegal don't have to go together. Look at it this way. CSAM is bad and I want it to remain illegal, but I'm opposed to Apple and Google scanning everyone's private photos to try to detect it.

Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

This assumes "charitable causes" can be apolitical. I guess the ACLU might be closer to what you want then? They have a recent history of criticism for defending the far-right in the name of free speech while generally being thought of as "liberal". The problem you're facing is that "fighting against power structures" is a political gradient starting short of authoritarianism and ending at anarchism (unless you're St…

Stirner could defend literally any politics under his egoistic framework. There's a liberal reading of the unique and it's property buried under the "anarchism" he esposed that resulted from how shitty the 1840s German state was...

Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

> is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? For fifty dollars, no. If you’re giving more substantially, of course.

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Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

Once you start following them I think you will find that they are very focused and have been quite successful at not diffusing into other areas.

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Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assumes "charitable causes" can be apolitical. I guess the ACLU might be closer to what you want then? They have a recent history of criticism for defending the far-right in the name of free speech while generally being thought of as "liberal". The problem you're facing is that "fighting against power structures" is a political gradient starting short of authoritarianism and ending at anarchism (unless you're St…

recent US Supreme Court rulings have shown the implications of that as e.g. Roe v Wade and other decisions that used to cement various civil justice issues ranging from interracial marriage and the abolishment of anti-sodomy laws to legalizing abortion were apparently literally based on the "right to privacy", which the Supreme Court ruled doesn't exist. The SCOTUS decision in Loving (the anti-miscegenation laws, i.e…

Also Roe's reversal found that privacy implied in the 14th amendment doesn't imply a 3 trimester schedule of first, abortions legal, second states choice and third, illegal. That's it.

The right to privacy wasn't established by Roe so overturning Roe doesn't have any effect on it.

Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

From experience (not as a donor but as someone familiar with nonprofits) if you donate enough,you can get it to fund specific programs. But, I would just email them, I am sure if they hear enough they'll be happy to set up a dedicated "privacy" or "transparency" initiatives.

You can always mail a donation and include a designation/restriction.

Re: Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t followed them enough but is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? I fully support everything directly related to their cause but it gets me very upset when charities are supporting other various agendas around gender/immigration for example that are unrelated to their main goal.

> is it possible to support them without supporting other charitable causes of a political persuasion I don’t support? For fifty dollars, no. If you’re giving more substantially, of course.

money is fungible
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