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Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Just got me thinking: What would it take for us to get to a point where there are small, safe nuclear powered "batteries", that can supply enough electricity for a building.

I saw a video about a recent advancement in nuclear diamond batteries. Basically look like normal AA batteries but used depleted uranium and lab diamonds to make them save and long lasting

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> allowing for doctors to check in on their patients and replace either the batteries or the pacemakers themselves I cynically read this as "we needed to get more money out of these patients"

I read this as: Most patients don’t survive those 10 years anyways.

Glad I'm not the only cynical one ;)

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Just got me thinking: What would it take for us to get to a point where there are small, safe nuclear powered "batteries", that can supply enough electricity for a building.

RTGs can’t do that. Compact nuclear reactors, however, can.

The problem is that a nuclear reactor is a dynamic system, with some moving parts. It requires thermal management. It requires dynamic control. It is really hard to design a fully self-contained nuclear power system which wouldn’t require any human intervention to operate.

And even if we could, there is also a problem of waste management. Nuclear waste is not too dangerous, if you don’t touch it. It is, however, quite dangerous, if you grind it into fine particles and spray a large city with it by a crop duster. Our world is crazy. There are people like that out there, who might be interested in it. It is relatively hard to obtain hot nuclear waste from centralized large power plants. It will be really easy in the case of small building-scale reactors.

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Could I use it to power my iPhone? Frankly I’m fed up with the need for charging.

No. It lasts years because pacemakers have a really tiny power draw.

There's not a miniature nuclear reactor in there, it's just a RTG, which is simple but also very inefficient. So it doesn't get the crazy amount of power from a tiny amount of material a fission reactor does.

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Just got me thinking: What would it take for us to get to a point where there are small, safe nuclear powered "batteries", that can supply enough electricity for a building.

Not related to nuclear, but the startup Bloom Energy was aiming this by fuel cells. A small box could power a house for a year, as they claimed. Trouble was the box internals run at very high temperatures (800°C) and there was potential for things going awry. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_Energy

This is established and commonly installed technology in Japan. It's called EneFarm. Lots of newish houses connected to natural gas have these largish boxes out front. The odd name leaves most people confused.

The EneFarms used to be heavily subsidized by the japanese government in a long term program to encourage fuel cell development and manufacturing. Over time prices have decreased such that the subsidy is either already expired or could be soon expired.

The tech is near, and allows getting a bit more energy out if natural gas. The gas companies hope it will allow them to eventually reuse their pipes to send hydrogen. Personally I think the combo of cheap solar panels and 400% efficiency heat pumps will outcompete gas.

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Just got me thinking: What would it take for us to get to a point where there are small, safe nuclear powered "batteries", that can supply enough electricity for a building.

Nice in theory but what if they fall into the wrong hands?

People are why we can't have nice things.

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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So this is the same technology as used in various space probes and the Curiosity and Perseverance Mars rovers ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-mission_radioisotope_the... ), just miniaturized. Fascinating, but not sure if I would want to have one inside my body...

Well, if the other option is that your heart won't work without one, and you are already elderly, why not?
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