I read the headline and thought, is this a change of heart from the Gnome team, then I read the article. Yes, it was too good to be true.
Help Improve Gnome
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Re: Help Improve Gnome
#42I've recently moved to GNOME on Fedora 36, and I just wish they stopped being hostile to themeing. No, Adwaita is not pretty. No, I don't want to use the default window decorations. And I most certainly do not want to have to install extensions to have a decent dock, proper top bar applets, etc. I have no idea where GNOME gets its UX expertise, but they are well off the mark where it regards what people expect from a…
Well, question of taste. I use Fedora 36 with Gnome precisely because I like the provided vanilla experience. I enjoy its simplicity, minimalism and it is nice looking enough for me for not having to spend time on tuning anything.
Re: Help Improve Gnome
#43> The goal of this tool is to help improve GNOME, by providing data that can inform design decisions, [...] I suppose that collecting data about Gnome configurations will provide data just marginally useful to inform design decisions. Anecdotal point: last month I installed Debian+Gnome on my father's new laptop. He's a retiree, and not a all a techie. He wasn't thrilled with the textless icons on the left but though…
I don't know how anybody gets on without text. I see coworkers who have a default Windows 10 setup, with the titles of windows hidden. They'll have 10+ Chrome windows open, 5+ spreadsheets, and then each Chrome window has 20 tabs in it. And despite all that, they still don't think to do "Open Link in New Tab", and they lose track of where they are in our web app. Maybe I should add breadcrumb nav. And of course, wind…
> Maybe people really do have fundamentally different brains from each other
I think this is a big thing. People have vastly different approaches to interacting with a UI, especially one they use everyday, and it's foolish to think there's a good one-size-fits-all approach. See this article for a good example of bad data-driven thinking of this sort which can happen in a field we can objectively measure (or the 80/20 rule, where 80% of users only use 20% of features in a product. Problem being they all use a different 20% of features):
https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-...
Re: Help Improve Gnome
#44I used to use GNOME for many years, mostly because it was the default on Ubuntu. Now it's one of my least favorite desktops, I'll use almost anything else. I got frustrated at the seemingly random, user-hostile, backwards-incompatible changes from one version to the next. From my rough memory: * The desktop icons and click-and-drag shortcuts got removed a few years ago. This is a GUI workflow that I've been using on…
> I think there is still no image preview in their file explorer. I don't know, I don't use it anymore.
Not in list view, but it's there (obviously) in icons view. It's always there in the file picker.
I'm a little torn here. I want the file explorer window to be as small as possible and I don't need the preview most of the times. However I'd like to have a preview when exploring a folder of picture, and the list view is always better than the icon view (sort, names, density, etc). I guess that a toolbar button to add the space for the preview on demand could be a nice to have feature.
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#45GNOME 3+ is confusing and difficult to use. Many of the design decisions are strange and break GUI conventions that have been around for decades. I have tried to understand and use GNOME 3+, but it is utterly frustrating and does not work for me.
I have to use GNOME 3+ at work because RHEL is the blessed Linux distribution and IT does not allow EPEL / third-party package repos that are not strictly required for business purposes.
RHEL 8 removed all desktop environment choices except GNOME 3, so every day is frustrating. I would rather have a Windows desktop and just SSH into a RHEL machine, so I don't have to use the GNOME GUI, but IT does not have extra computers to hand out.
Re: Help Improve Gnome
#46Personally I really like the GNOME UX. I was very skeptical when I tried it for the first time a year or so ago, but after a while of using it, it just started to make sense and really feels like a coherent system rather than the cobbled-together messes that most other Linux desktops (and Windows) are.
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#47I found the UX of GNOME very inspiring. After a set of innovative changes around 2015 i switched to the i3 window manager, passed its learning curve and now i am a happy user of a stable, constant desktop experience for over 6 years now.
Re: Help Improve Gnome
#48I've recently moved to GNOME on Fedora 36, and I just wish they stopped being hostile to themeing. No, Adwaita is not pretty. No, I don't want to use the default window decorations. And I most certainly do not want to have to install extensions to have a decent dock, proper top bar applets, etc. I have no idea where GNOME gets its UX expertise, but they are well off the mark where it regards what people expect from a…
Well, question of taste. I use Fedora 36 with Gnome precisely because I like the provided vanilla experience. I enjoy its simplicity, minimalism and it is nice looking enough for me for not having to spend time on tuning anything.
Mine now looks mostly like this, so that I don't have to re-learn UI conventions: https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2022/04/02/2130
Re: Help Improve Gnome
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I eventually figured out that I had to swipe up a little arrow at the bottom of the screen, but using a mouse. Why? Forced swipes are one of the most disgusting feature ever; they are always configured with some kind of inertial threshold so that you need to do the exact movement the designer expected. On touchscreen they are even worse as sometimes if you are holding the device in an unusual way or have a cover th…
Lockscreen clicks are also incredibly annoying. I'm left handed and often use my mouse left handed with the clicks swapped. If you do this in software on something like Windows/MacOS then it uses the "default" click setup even if you're logged in and the only user on the system. So I will sit there and right click while it's looking for a left click because that's the "default". It's incredibly dumb. Most Linux DEs/l…
There is never* a good reason not to have Enter do the reasonable thing when there is only one possible action
* hyperbolic but I cannot think of one beside "let's force our user to discover this new nifty flow they would never use otherwise"
Re: Help Improve Gnome
#50I've recently moved to GNOME on Fedora 36, and I just wish they stopped being hostile to themeing. No, Adwaita is not pretty. No, I don't want to use the default window decorations. And I most certainly do not want to have to install extensions to have a decent dock, proper top bar applets, etc. I have no idea where GNOME gets its UX expertise, but they are well off the mark where it regards what people expect from a…
I guess it's quite subjective because...I love the default theme