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Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Wonder how I slided into the world of Fallout?

WTF!?! We have plutonium powered pacemakers?

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2015/ph241/degraw2/

Ah, okay we had.

> Despite the often longer life-expectancies, nuclear pacemakers quickly became a part of the past when lithium batteries were developed. Not only did the technology improve, allowing for lighter, smaller, and programmable pacemakers, but doctors began to realize that this excessive longevity of nuclear pacemakers was excessive. Lithium pacemakers often last 10-15 years allowing for doctors to check in on their patients and replace either the batteries or the pacemakers themselves with new and improved technology as it is develops in those 10-15 year spans.

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Just got me thinking: What would it take for us to get to a point where there are small, safe nuclear powered "batteries", that can supply enough electricity for a building.

It would take some kind of complete revolution. It’s not happening.

These batteries have very poor power density and are very inefficient. The advantages of nuclear-powered batteries are:

- They generate power over a long time, decades,

- They generate some heat.

They don’t generate much power. If you have a building, you would definitely think of a nuclear RTG as a “very shitty battery”, and that’s even if you don’t care at all about radioactivity.

Thinking of these as a “battery” is also a bit misleading, IMO. These are really just small power plants, which generate heat and turn the heat into electricity. The heat is powered by radioactive decay of Pu-238, and then turned into electricity with the extremely inefficient Seebeck effect. If you had a source of heat you wanted to turn into electricity, it’s much more efficient to use that heat to turn a turbine which is connected to a generator. And if you want an efficient, cost-effictive turbine, you make it big. At that point, you have a power plant.

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Just got me thinking: What would it take for us to get to a point where there are small, safe nuclear powered "batteries", that can supply enough electricity for a building.

Not related to nuclear, but the startup Bloom Energy was aiming this by fuel cells. A small box could power a house for a year, as they claimed. Trouble was the box internals run at very high temperatures (800°C) and there was potential for things going awry.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_Energy

Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers

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Just got me thinking: What would it take for us to get to a point where there are small, safe nuclear powered "batteries", that can supply enough electricity for a building.

RTGs have been around since the 50's and 60's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_ge... For example Russia used them to power lighthouses in super remote parts of their coast. Space probes, mars rovers, etc. use them too.
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