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Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Oh, i can AFFORD any phone i want...but i use a cheap android because my self esteem is not dependent on using money to signal other people about my high social status

You're projecting. I can't afford any phone I want, I use a 5 year old iPhone and my choice has nothing to do with my social status. My next phone is likely to be an iPhone too.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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For average people, iPhones are aspirational, android is what you get if you can’t afford an iPhone. So as soon as you can afford it, you buy one. Tech people excluded because they have other niche reasons for their smartphone choice.

I've seen it the other way. When spending $1000 dollars on a phone is no big deal, you get the best phone available regardless of brand.

When you can't afford it, you finance it. A iphone is $30/month. It's a status symbol for the lower class. It doesn't do much for status when you make 6 figures.

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For average people, iPhones are aspirational, android is what you get if you can’t afford an iPhone. So as soon as you can afford it, you buy one. Tech people excluded because they have other niche reasons for their smartphone choice.

Anyone can buy an iPhone for the same price or less than most Android phones. $399/429.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Oh, i can AFFORD any phone i want...but i use a cheap android because my self esteem is not dependent on using money to signal other people about my high social status

You're projecting. I can't afford any phone I want, I use a 5 year old iPhone and my choice has nothing to do with my social status. My next phone is likely to be an iPhone too.

The op definitely defines their social status via their phone. We all know some people just prefer apple for whatever reason.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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I switched to Android because I use a lot of Google products: GMail, Google Calendar, Google Fi, Google Maps.

The deeper integration with my phone makes my life easier and, while there used to be a large gap in quality, I find iOS/Android to be similar these days.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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I feel like many people love iOS, but many also hate it (not open enough, lock in etc.) but they hate the cheapishness and crappiness of Android even more.

Is there any development ongoing for a mobile OS that is not full of crap like Android, but not as restrictive as iOS?

Not sure if Windows Phone or PalmOS were like that, but those are both gone…

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Oh, i can AFFORD any phone i want...but i use a cheap android because my self esteem is not dependent on using money to signal other people about my high social status

You're projecting. I can't afford any phone I want, I use a 5 year old iPhone and my choice has nothing to do with my social status. My next phone is likely to be an iPhone too.

lol...projecting? so you are saying that deep down inside I really want an iphone? LOL...ok, dude...

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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I attribute most of this to iMessage and the associated lock-in effect. You don't see the same trend in the rest of the world where 3rd party messengers (Whatsapp, Viber, Line, snapchat, etc) are mostly used for comms. The inability of iPhones to easily host 'cracked' apps also acts as an anchor to adoption - theres a lot of people hooked on their cracked ad-free spotify or youtube apps, or games with 'everything fre…

I attribute most of this to the simple fact that in Europe, Apple products are around 20% more expensive, because, protectionist EU trade policies.

Unsurprisingly, iPhone has a pretty damn high penetration rate in Japan where it costs about as much as the US, because there's fewer trade barrier there.

Re: Apple overtakes Android to pass 50% share of smartphones used in US

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Can't say that Google does not deserve "this" defeat (out of many). Google slowly stopped caring about Android: the vision and the concept of a "community-driven" OS but instead went back in the "defensive" mode of caring more about Google: ads, profits, government contracts & "obeying" (without actual motive) draconian surveillance laws, etc. Yes "organizing world's data" was always a core mission of Google, but the fact is that you cannot do that by also fighting over the smallest edges when it comes to competition, not if you want to keep scaling.

Most people have seen this coming as soon as Google fought the concept of letting people switch the search engine, the browser, core defaults on Android. I would say "I can't blame them" but seeing that they want both eating the cake & keeping it, I won't.

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