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Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by walrus01 »

nyanpasu64 wrote: post #247
walrus01 wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or Wiha, which is also a very reputable German-manufactured steel hand tool company. Similarly named to Wera but a competitor. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+scre... they make some excellent torx, security torx, hex, precision screwdriver sets. in addition to the larger stuff they make for 600/1000V insulated electrical use.

Personal story, I ordered https://www.wihatools.com/products/precision-phillips-screwd... . On the plus side, the Phillips screwdrivers are hardened and almost impervious to camming out/slipping (but can still strip on bad screws if you don't apply any pressure), unlike my cheap Amazon screwdriver kit which chewed up Phillips screws for a living. On the downside, the PH0 screwdriver's endcap wasn't spinning freely (u…

are you quite sure you weren't trying to use a pozidriv bit in philips screws/bolts, or vice versa?

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by rowanG077 »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #133
qbasic_forever wrote: post #104

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Why in the world do small screws need nearly 20 ft-lbs of force? That's a level where I'd be breaking out a much larger torque wrench. I'd be shocked if the kind of small machine screws in a PC can even withstand that force.

High torques on small fasteners are common in electrical and hydraulic applications. But yeah, zero reason for huge amounts of torque in a computer case.

High torque on the mounting screws of some CPU coolers can significantly help thermal performance.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by defterGoose »

TheCapn wrote: post #218
omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

This is pretty common in my experience? Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. LTT looks to be flexing his brand here on unsuspecting PC enthusiasts where anyone with more experience in the electrical trades knows where to get higher quality tools for better/similar pricing. I'll compare to my time in Paintball years a…

These types of products generally fall under the header of "lifestyle brands", and IME are experiencing a big boom right now due to the advent of "influencers".

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by aaron695 »

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

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Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by padjo »

mrguyorama wrote: post #220
bobsmooth wrote: post #215

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If a company really wanted to, it could dissolve itself and the owners disappear. Even if you wanted to force a company to hold up its warranty you'd have to sue them, and who would do that for a $250 backpack? That is what Linus was trying to say.

So what? I don't care what a business could do to attempt to violate my warranty rights, I care that I have my rights and can seek justice if they've been breached. Things are just sooooo much easier to deal with when established warranty law is followed. There is no valid argument for "I don't want my customers to have warranty rights".

Your warranty rights are effectively non existent, that’s the whole point. You’d have to be an idiot or have very deep pockets and a lot of free time to try to enforce them over a 70 dollar screwdriver

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by cowmoo728 »

TheCapn wrote: post #218
omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

This is pretty common in my experience? Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. LTT looks to be flexing his brand here on unsuspecting PC enthusiasts where anyone with more experience in the electrical trades knows where to get higher quality tools for better/similar pricing. I'll compare to my time in Paintball years a…

I don't understand the assumptions in this comment. Linus is selling a screwdriver that he designed and would not otherwise exist, and that he believes is better than any other screwdriver available. That's different than selling a common item at high markup. It would have been more profitable and far less work to put the LTT brand on an existing screwdriver.

I'm still not going to buy it because it's too expensive and I don't care enough. But most of the cost here is associated with a small player trying to make a product from scratch rather than using existing tooling, molds, parts, etc. That seems very different than how you characterized it.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by hallz »

omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

The Wera 816 RA Ratchet Screwdriver is good (I got it in the set). The best part is the quick connect which allows you to use any standard bit with it. Interchangable with your impact driver and if you break one you can just replace it.

The advantage of having the quick connect right at the handle is that the bit shaft is as thin as possible which is really handing for dissassembling products/things where a screw is down in a deep recess.

The ratchet does take a little bit of force to engage which does make it average for pc building.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by Open-Sourcery »

graton wrote: post #208
marginalia_nu wrote: post #105

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LTT has a lot of goodwill. The brand is managed incredibly well and feels consistently personal, honest and authentic. Probably a lot of people that just want them to do well in what they do. If you get a decent screwdriver out of it, that's nice I guess.

True. But they did hurt some of that goodwill with the "Trust Me Bro Warranty" in regards to the $250 backpack they sell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdxVtAiYeL0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsX3tUA-wJk

Never really got the whole controversy around that, and looks like Linus didn't really either. I would potentially chalk it up to cultural differences. At least where I live (and maybe in Canada?) we have quite strong consumer protection laws to the point that pretty much all warranties are less strong than the law is, so I don't really pay attention to them at all.

Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

jgoewert wrote: post #165
hotcoffeebear wrote: post #118

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Plus, it’s probably for computer builders and stuff (like ikea things or similar). I don’t think those meant for heavy duty or home building.

Should watch the video they did just before this one where they did a live popup shop and had people trying to torque the hell out of this and it stands up. Or even during this exact video where he says that if you hit the max torque that this screwdriver can survive, you better have seen that your steel pc case now has a hole in it where the screw used to be.

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Re: Our screwdriver took three years [video]

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Post by acomjean »

walrus01 wrote: post #238
omega3 wrote: post #99

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

Or Wiha, which is also a very reputable German-manufactured steel hand tool company. Similarly named to Wera but a competitor. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+scre... they make some excellent torx, security torx, hex, precision screwdriver sets. in addition to the larger stuff they make for 600/1000V insulated electrical use.

My brother gave me one. It’s really quite a nice driver. The insulation is nice and the bits work really well. I find the grip quite comfortable.

Much better than the “mr ratchet” driver set I got in the 90s..(one oddly wasn’t. Ratchet driver)

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