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Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by Hextinium »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #293
wildrhythms wrote: post #255

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Have you visited the U.S.? Suburban sprawl has made it a 1-2 hour walk one-way to a grocery store in many places (if you can walk there at all). In many places there isn't even a sidewalk.

I lived in CA, AZ, NV, NC, FL, NJ and NY, and visited a dozen of other states. There was always a large grocery store I could walk or bus to.

Anecdote time: I currently live in Texas, the closest grocery store is a hour walk. While living in Colorado it was a hour and a half, and in Florida it was 2 hours, all of these where easy 5 minute trips by a car and an excursion by foot.

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

godelski wrote: post #299
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #293

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I lived in CA, AZ, NV, NC, FL, NJ and NY, and visited a dozen of other states. There was always a large grocery store I could walk or bus to.

Visit middle America. Specifically, visit The South. You'll find that many regions in The South do no have sidewalks. If you're also only visiting major cities then you are likely not to see these differences in architecture. It is easy to form a selection bias. No one here is saying that there aren't plenty of walkable cities in America, but we are saying that you'll find a substantial overlap between non-walkable c…

Sure I've being to rural America and I know what you are talking about. But only one in 5 Americans lives in rural communities, vast majority lives in an urban setting. I was just suggesting in my comment that one can use uber to haul groceries.

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Post by nomel »

stouset wrote: post #208
nomel wrote: post #194

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I had a mini stroke, with long lasting problems. Look up “dormant neurons” and hyperbaric oxygen therapy. I did a relatively extended treatment and it helped me tremendously . I really wish I would have done it sooner. I might have been able to save a bit more of my brain. Besides significant improvements in my work life, the big win for me was eliminating some anger problems that showed up after the TIA, and getting…

I'm sorry to hear about your situation but extremely glad to hear you've found a path towards recovery! As I said in my previous post, I'm extremely lucky. I recovered on my own about 30 minutes post-onset, although I do have a small remaining permanent clot (presumably from the original one breaking up) that has caused permanent injury to a small area that my neurologist says should cause no noticeable impact. I'm t…

> Have you dealt with anything that at all?

Yeah, I think I went through something similar. The realization of fragility really got to me for a while, and I think my perspective about how temporary life is has permanently shifted. I feel like I'm just more anxious, in general, because I feel like it's going to crash down at some point. It makes me feel like I'm always in a hurry. Maybe it will eventually be a positive, where I came to terms with it, and put more effort to cherish every day, rather realizing it when I'm old, and it's too late?

I would still consider the oxygen therapy, since it could bring back some of the tissue around that clot. I also did it in an attempt to reduce the chances of Alzheimers, which we are now many times more likely to get.

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by godelski »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #302
godelski wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Visit middle America. Specifically, visit The South. You'll find that many regions in The South do no have sidewalks. If you're also only visiting major cities then you are likely not to see these differences in architecture. It is easy to form a selection bias. No one here is saying that there aren't plenty of walkable cities in America, but we are saying that you'll find a substantial overlap between non-walkable c…

Sure I've being to rural America and I know what you are talking about. But only one in 5 Americans lives in rural communities, vast majority lives in an urban setting. I was just suggesting in my comment that one can use uber to haul groceries.

Yeah, go watch the Not Just Bikes video and you'll see that what he's talking about isn't rural. But of course, you won't really see the issues unless you try to walk. When I was 19 I was living in Orange County (CA) and my car was in the shop. What was normally a 15 minute drive to work turned into a 3hr bus ride. I probably would have saved 15 minutes by walking, but these are the design differences. You probably wouldn't notice the difficulties unless you actually attempt to walk.

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Post by analog31 »

erklik wrote: post #189
nu11ptr wrote: post #121

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For starters, they could stop encouraging unhealthy eating ( cough food pyramid cough ). We should be be eating like our grandparent's grandparents (or as I call it: 'A real food' diet) but instead they tell us to shun meat but feel free to eat all the heavily processed carbs with HFCS and canola oil foods you want. Don't eat red meat, but pizza and fries are just fine!

> eating like our grandparent's grandparents Is there any science showcasing exactly what that was?

We can look at it from the source side, and assume that what gets produced gets eaten (not entirely accurate of course). How have food production, processing, preservation, and distribution changed?

An interpretation of the obesity epidemic and resulting health crisis is that we are now producing a toxic quantity of food.

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by godelski »

Hextinium wrote: post #301
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived in CA, AZ, NV, NC, FL, NJ and NY, and visited a dozen of other states. There was always a large grocery store I could walk or bus to.

Anecdote time: I currently live in Texas, the closest grocery store is a hour walk. While living in Colorado it was a hour and a half, and in Florida it was 2 hours, all of these where easy 5 minute trips by a car and an excursion by foot.

Not to mention that all three of those states have major portions of the year where being outside that long can actually be dangerous. Either through dehydration and heat stroke (especially considering that on pavement temperature is higher) or through freezing temperatures (and potentially frozen over sidewalks).

Re: U.S. life expectancy drops sharply, the second consecutive decline

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Post by dumbplestilskin »

Bakary wrote: post #280
dumbplestilskin wrote: post #172

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It’s the inversion of your propositional case, however. His claim is not that the vaccine has caused extra deaths (the sun goes dark) but rather that if the vaccine is unsafe in -some- or all causes then mortality would increase on average. (if more people get sunburned from a hotter sun, we will see more skin cancer) It follows, and my interpretation of the data is that the vaccines are causing some issues or not gi…

The commenter at the top of the tree was implying a degree of unsafety in their premise that was sufficient to overpower other possible statistical causes. In the current discussion, this is a very close equivalent to stating that the vaccine caused extra deaths. To keep to the metaphor, the statement that the sun is hotter is already a huge claim in need of evidence rather than a starting premise. If we accept that…

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Post by wsc981 »

anchochilis wrote: post #270
vandreas2 wrote: post #238

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Has worked for me. I find the UK food labels on most products quite informative as a rule of thumb. I remember initially being very surprised at some food contains when I started paying attention and how very small things like Mars bars can have so many calories comparatively of course. I think there's something sinister about not wanting the consumer to know what your product contains.

This thread is full of people commenting along the lines of " I have been able to manage my weight successfully, so other people must be fat because they're lazy idiots." HN is full of people who will accept nuance and complexity in technical discussions. Why not in this area as well, where individual biology, cultural expectations, economic incentives, and environmental factors intersect with personal choice?

Look at this video with fragments from England and Ireland 120 years ago.

https://twitter.com/bo66ie29/status/1565100701755314180?s=20...

How many fat people you see?

Do you think human biology changed a lot the past 120 years?

I think just a bit of movement each day and eating healthy food is enough for 99% of people to prevent getting overweight.

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Post by jjav »

Hextinium wrote: post #301
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived in CA, AZ, NV, NC, FL, NJ and NY, and visited a dozen of other states. There was always a large grocery store I could walk or bus to.

Anecdote time: I currently live in Texas, the closest grocery store is a hour walk. While living in Colorado it was a hour and a half, and in Florida it was 2 hours, all of these where easy 5 minute trips by a car and an excursion by foot.

If it was a 2 hour by foot, assuming an average of 3 mph walking, that's 6 miles away. For that to be a 5 minute trip by car you need to drive 72mph.

Reasonable on the interstate but as your driveway (nor the store entrance) are directly on an interstate, there has to be at least some stretch of slower driving bringing the average down, so the speed on the interstate section would have to be much higher to bring the overall average speed to 72 mph.

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Post by swader999 »

Teever wrote: post #216
brippalcharrid wrote: post #99

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Especially if the spike protein produced by the vaccines has been modified to be more stable (pseudouridine vs uridine) and therefore more immunogenic (toxic), and is present in significantly larger (orders of magnitude larger) quantities.

How did you feel about mask mandates and lockdowns?

Felt like they were ineffective and that the Barrington recommendations were a better approach to follow, especially as time went on and more data on the nature of it emerged.
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