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Re: Ask HN: Why don't we have 3 day weekends yet?

#11
In some places in Europe, after some period of employment, you can demand of your employer to let you work 80% of hours for 80% of pay. I have team members in Europe on this schedule and it works out well for everyone.

Based on that experience, I'd also be open to such an arrangement for employees based in geographies where that's not legally required, but is legally and practically permitted. My guess is that most people are working a 5-day workweek because they're most comfortable doing that, from both a "well, all of my friends are doing that anyway, so I wouldn't have anyone to hang out with" as well as from a "I'm working for my financial future and working only X hours per week is unlikely to give me the same career trajectory as working 25% more hours per week" perspective.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't we have 3 day weekends yet?

#13
To maybe throw the question back - what have you done to make 3 day weekends a reality?

The way the post is worded right now seems to be phrased in a way that 3-day weekends are blindingly obvious, but if you look at the history of labour rights I dont see why anyone expects it to just happen without a massive amount of organising

Re: Ask HN: Why don't we have 3 day weekends yet?

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post #4

I work 70 hours a week. Surely you wouldn’t outlaw my ethic? And if a run a company, surely I could require my employees to work 5 days, 40 hours? The solution is to let business owners switch to 4 day weeks and then let the free market sort it out.

if the free market was capable of sorting anything out, unions would never have existed

Re: Ask HN: Why don't we have 3 day weekends yet?

#15
"And we know many people who work barely a fraction of the week, yet need to maintain this kind of presenteeism."

I don't disagree with you necessarily but the people who game it now, will game it with 4 day week as well. Slackers are always going to slack. 5 day or 4 day.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't we have 3 day weekends yet?

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post #4

I work 70 hours a week. Surely you wouldn’t outlaw my ethic? And if a run a company, surely I could require my employees to work 5 days, 40 hours? The solution is to let business owners switch to 4 day weeks and then let the free market sort it out.

The free market would grind every last human into powder if it could. Labor regulations exist because you can’t trust humans to be various degrees of moral, decent, and empathetic. If labor regulations ratchet the work week down, you’d be free to offer 32 hour work weeks to employees, and pay them for overtime beyond that. Productivity has exploded over the last four decades (across various economies, developed and d…

Humans are free to enter contracts of their own choosing, not forced by arbitrary government regulations. As many other commenters here have pointed out, negotiating oneself to a 4 day workweek (or other offers) is possible.

I for one, choose to not take the 20% pay cut and will happily work a 40 hour work week. That's my choice.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't we have 3 day weekends yet?

#18
I know people who work 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, 4 days, 5 days, 6 days, 7 days and all sorts of other schedules.

9-5 5 day office jobs aren't everything that's out there, they're not even probably "most jobs". Shift work and contract work are obvious counter examples.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't we have 3 day weekends yet?

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post #4

I work 70 hours a week. Surely you wouldn’t outlaw my ethic? And if a run a company, surely I could require my employees to work 5 days, 40 hours? The solution is to let business owners switch to 4 day weeks and then let the free market sort it out.

if the free market was capable of sorting anything out, unions would never have existed

Unions are inherently free market. If government controlled all labor, Unions would not exist.
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