Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay
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#72I am a multiple meetup organizer and owner on meetup.com and I find it actually great that the meetup can stay alive if the organizer stop to pay. Your communities are not owned by you. Also, they don't give subscribers infos but just "an access" to send them email communication to the list, not the "list" with email list etc...
Well, in the scenario outlined by OP, their former community is now _owned_ by a third party uninterested in the community's purpose and spamming the members to their own ends.
Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay
#73This has been an issue with Meetup for as long as I remember. The problem is there are two distinct scenarios. One is that the organizer has lost interest or is stepping down for some reason. Allowing the community to continue on Meetup in that case makes sense, by having someone step up to continue paying Meetup. The other is that the community as a whole has decided to move to a new platform. In this case keeping t…
What is the platform where these events have moved? Please tell me it's not just Facebook.
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#74At least that would prevent the sniping. In your case, do you have any continued access or has control already been sniped?
[0] Delete all but a few members, replace all members's email addresses with junk/temp email addresses, etc.
Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay
#75WOW! Comments pointing out that this is illegal in the UK and Europe under the GDPR removed! What gives?
Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay
#76When it started dwindling and the other co-organizers lost interest I made an announcement that we were sunsetting the group at the end of the year. The last meetup was at a brewery instead of an office and we deleted the group right there.
It would be nice if there were a way to archive the group, but the only options are abandoning for anyone to grab as a marketing list or complete deletion.
Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay
#77WOW! Comments pointing out that this is illegal in the UK and Europe under the GDPR removed! What gives?
Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having not been a meetup admin, what access do you have for user's information? Is it just their meetup profiles, or do you actively have their email addresses? Also, you said two things interesting: "profiles of our old podcast producer meetup group", and then "without my input or opting in". You used both "our" and "my". Do you see it as your group, or a group of people who have come together and could keep it goin…
I'm an admin/owner for a Meetup group. I think the only thing I can see that other members can't is: 1 Number of RSVPs 2 List of meetups attended 3 No-shows 4 Last visit to the Meetup page 5 Whether they are blocked from the group Except for 3 and 5, the information is all available on pages visible to members anyway, though you'd need to page through all the past events to aggregate it. I do see a box "Get to know y…
I wonder what all the differences there are. That would be more concerning if that allowed transfer.
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#79Organizers were never able to see anything but basic information about users. Definitely not email. Mostly historic RSVPs, a userpic, and whatever information provided when you joined a group or RSVPed (organizers could ask questions in both cases).
Despite what people seem to believe, the _vast_ majority of Meetups are about topics that aren't technical at all. There have always been technical oriented meetups, of course, and that category used to have a lot of user volume for events, but most of the meetups on the site were for hobbies, support groups, hiking, biking, dogs, etc, etc, etc..
Let me also say that _most people_, at the time, resisted changes to the site. Redesigns (and there were a few attempts while I was there) would result in crushing amounts of support tickets, and social media campaigns threatening the business. It was wild! During this time:
1. Meetup did usability studies (and even paid for them) 2. Ran lots of A/B tests, and did so properly (and by this, I mean, we waited until the statistics gave us actual confidence) 3. Were generally very conservative about roll outs or design changes, must to the chagrin of everyone that worked there.
Meetup also had (and likely very much still has) a really interesting problem. Most people want to passively join a group and show up to a few meetups when their schedule allows. But! Organizers who don't organize meetups, or who aren't into it anymore, mean that the group exists but doesn't do anything and sits inactive. There's no worse feeling in the world than finding a group of potential shared interest holders only to realize that the group doesn't actually do anything, and maybe never has.
And here's the problem. When I was there, we were about 100 employees, and we _all_ were there (not for large sums of money, let me just get that out of the way) because we believed in the mission: "A Meetup everywhere about (al)most anything." This company was completely mission driven!
So! What do you do? You want organizers to have "skin in the game" and be passionate about what they're doing so that the rest of the group actually has a good experience. Well, you charge the organizer! When they run out of passion, they stop paying, someone else maybe steps up! It worked so well, soooo many times, and it was a big piece of the "how do we make money?" problem.
Meetup was so unique back in those days. There were discussion boards, sure. But, we only ever felt successful when actual people went to actual meetups. It was the best feeling in the world to see thousands and thousands of people getting out in the world and meeting their neighbors to do simple things (and not so simple things, like finding the 5 other people in your state that suffered from the same chronic medical conditions), and if you were ever in the office on Broadway, you couldn't forget that feeling, cause you saw the thousands of pictures of happy people meeting up all over.
Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay
#80This has been an issue with Meetup for as long as I remember. The problem is there are two distinct scenarios. One is that the organizer has lost interest or is stepping down for some reason. Allowing the community to continue on Meetup in that case makes sense, by having someone step up to continue paying Meetup. The other is that the community as a whole has decided to move to a new platform. In this case keeping t…
What is the platform where these events have moved? Please tell me it's not just Facebook.