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Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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post #4

I am a multiple meetup organizer and owner on meetup.com and I find it actually great that the meetup can stay alive if the organizer stop to pay. Your communities are not owned by you. Also, they don't give subscribers infos but just "an access" to send them email communication to the list, not the "list" with email list etc...

Maybe they're moving their community to a new platform.

Christ, controlling a meetup group is not where running a community ends.

Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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post #4

I am a multiple meetup organizer and owner on meetup.com and I find it actually great that the meetup can stay alive if the organizer stop to pay. Your communities are not owned by you. Also, they don't give subscribers infos but just "an access" to send them email communication to the list, not the "list" with email list etc...

Tbh that practice seems to be on par with any social network standard out there. You get stuff, even for free, but the real product is still your data. If you don't want anyone to access that, you can't use these things.

Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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post #10

> meetup.com thinking our meetups would be destroyed at some point That seems naive, you created a meetup on a free platform that is built to bring users together. You are just the initiator, you don't own the community.

That seems harsh if OP is paying Meetup to create and support the meetup. I think there's an expectation that if you pay for the community, then you actually do own it, at least in some sense.

Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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On one hand I understand your frustrations, on the other hand, I'm coordinating a bunch of meetups and one of them lost its crew and was abandoned. Then I got in touch with a guy who bought it and is happily running the meetup now.

The actions you can take can be based on owning the trademark or copyright on the logo of the meetup.

Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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post #8

This seems like a feature to me. It allows members of the group to keep going if the original admin/owner goes away for whatever reason. But I don’t think you get a list of emails, unless that was like one of your screening questions?

I think you're right, also I think if you're getting the option to take on admin of the group, you're already a member of the group and have access to the members list, and ability to message people on it, anyway. So other than the possibility the community you created might continue to interact when you somehow don't want them to, I'm not really sure what you're losing if somebody takes over as group admin after you leave.

Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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post #10

> meetup.com thinking our meetups would be destroyed at some point That seems naive, you created a meetup on a free platform that is built to bring users together. You are just the initiator, you don't own the community.

That seems harsh if OP is paying Meetup to create and support the meetup. I think there's an expectation that if you pay for the community, then you actually do own it, at least in some sense.

That's a valid point. It gets tricky because, from my experience, many/most Meetup organizers ask group members to donate to cover those fees.

If they do this, then arguably the members are the owners rather than the organizer.

But not all organizers do ask for donations. Some run meetups more like a business where they charge to attend events and may even make some profit. Some run meetups as a marketing tool for their business. It's less clear that the members are the owners of those meetups.

Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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This has been an issue with Meetup for as long as I remember. The problem is there are two distinct scenarios.

One is that the organizer has lost interest or is stepping down for some reason. Allowing the community to continue on Meetup in that case makes sense, by having someone step up to continue paying Meetup.

The other is that the community as a whole has decided to move to a new platform. In this case keeping the now defunct community around and making it seem viable is bad. The current active members will know where to go, but new potential members or former members that want to re-engage are going to get confused.

I got burned by this a couple of times, finding a group on meetup only to discover that it’s a ghost group, to the point where I’m now suspicious of any meetup group I find that hasn’t had an active event in the last couple of months.

This is where I think Meetup is shooting themselves in the foot by not having a way to dissolve a group if the group as a whole decides to move.

Re: Tell HN: Meetup.com is offering abandoned meetups to anyone willing to pay

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They've been doing this since at least 2019. When I shut down my Meetup, they sent a note out to everyone asking them to "Step up to become this Meetup Group's Organizer and you can guide its future direction!". Thankfully, I knew it was coming and messaged everyone beforehand so there wasn't any confusion.

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