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Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by mercy_dude »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #89
mercy_dude wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly agree with you. I used to be as pro-Israel as it gets but after my visits to that area I think the burden you mr average Joe Palestinian has to bear to for example just to do normal things such as going to work or driving to see the family or take a flight that we all take for granted, is too excessive. A Palestinian depending on where he works could have somewhere between 3-5hrs commute depending on the numbe…

Are you saying the decayed Palestinian leadership justifies their peoples abuse?

It doesn’t justify but it prolongs it. The so called “resistance” everyone here is encouraged to form and sympathize with, at some point you realize why do I as someone sitting far away have to care so much more when their own leadership and some of their own people in upper echelons are willingly happy to let everything rot including things within their full control?

Suffering is not justified but you can easily throw the argument that Palestinians will be living under the similar rot even if they had one state. I am not making it but at least that’s a plausible argument from the other side and it has a decent chance of happening if someday they gain a country of own.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by koheripbal »

ethotool wrote: post #116

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There's a lot of dishonesty in this comment.

I encourage people to watch the video linked above. The relevant part is 3m30s in and judge for themselves.

He very clearly did not say anything close to what you claim.

I really don't understand your hate.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by golergka »

sofixa wrote: post #75
kurupt213 wrote: post #70

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Israel deserves to exist as much as any other country

It absolutely does. It doesn't deserve to deny the existence of another country, Palestine, though.

Good thing that it doesn't. Palestine became a country with thanks to Israel and Oslo Accords for the first time in history.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by dirtyid »

case0x00 wrote: post #87
kurupt213 wrote: post #77

Where’s the disgust about working China, the modern day Nazis

quite. it is very frustrating seeing _every single thread_ about israel turn into hateful rhetoric, spreading lies and propaganda, using buzzwords they heard somewhere, and generally not understanding history at all. but threads about china/KSA/UAE/etc. are free of this. this isn't whataboutism, its important to care about humans rights issues in multiple countries, but its just weird how hate-fueled people get about…

> cannot criticize israel

IMO large part of distaste for Israel is reflection of how criticizing Israel doesn't do shit due to how entrenched and influential Israel Lobby is in US politics and centrality of Israel is to US foreign policy in MENA. Let's be real, Israel isn't going to get substantively sanctioned by US + LIO co for any of the henious shit they do. There's plenty of hate boners for PRC/KSA as well, but also tangible policy/diplomatic actions against these "bad actors" while Israel get's off with relatively light slaps. The long running hypocrisy and impunity is a bad look and triggers broad groups, most of whom IMO are simply anti-Israli influence because it's a reflection on how realist and interest driven US foreign policy actually is. Optically, frequently it looks like US can't keep Israel on a short leash, and sometimes the dog is walking the owner, this pisses off from antisemites who simply hates Jews to murica exceptionalists who thinks Israel is functionally a vassal and everyone in between. TBH pro Israel propaganda is doing pretty well all things considered. Evoking antisemitism seems to work out better than sinophobia or islamaphobia at least in MSM.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by KoftaBob »

batch12 wrote: post #79
dncornholio wrote: post #43

Not sure what disgusts me more, the term Jewglers or the fact that she faked the retaliation. This story just doesn't add up.

For what it's worth, it looks like Jewglers is a name the group calls itself [0]. It doesn't appear to be some racist phrase the employee made up. [0] https://www.seroundtable.com/photos/google-jewglers-menorah-...

Also (just for context), the employee in question is also Jewish.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by golergka »

ethotool wrote: post #116

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> racist ideology

Israel has a right to exist as a nation state just like any other country in the world. This belief is not racist, and any decent person on Earth should be a Zionist by definition, just as he should support all other nation's rights to self-determination and freedom.

Anti-zionism, on the other hand, denies jewish people this right, and is inherently a deeply racist and oppresive ideology.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by qsort »

imchillyb wrote: post #117
boardwaalk wrote: post #90

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The belief that more rational beliefs are possible is not exactly debatable, is it? Certainly, the “woo” stuff you referenced is not the only alternative? That people have to believe in some “religion” and that common “religions” at the current point in history are at peak possible rationality… well, there’s no real reason to believe that, is there?

Sure if s person is willing to completely ignore reality for pie in the sky…

There are at least three different claims here that I'd like to unpack:

1) "If you really have to pick a belief system to put your faith in, you can do much worse than traditional religion." Now, I'm a lifelong atheist, and atheism is one of the few things I never changed my mind on, but I came to the conclusion that this is probably true: at the very least, traditional religion is a stable belief system that won't destroy your life.

2) "A lot of people who aren't traditionally religious, actually follow some random bullshit creed that's much worse than religion." I agree with this, there is a genuine human need religion fulfills and many might want to "fill the void" with subpar alternatives.

3) "If you are an atheist, then you necessarily fall into case (2)." Which is blatantly false, as the existence of millions of perfectly well-adjusted and functioning atheists shows.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by SnowHill9902 »

ethotool wrote: post #116

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Your comment is so full of hatred I don’t think that one can argue with you. A Zionist is one who wanted to go back to the land of Israel. There’s nothing wrong with it, yet you use it pejoratively. It’s not a racist ideology to install a server. It was not their job or call to protest a corporate decision. Any company would fire an employee for open insubordination. Israel treats Palestinians actually quite well for being foreigners and a belligerent state.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by [deleted] »

boardwaalk wrote: post #90
rayiner wrote: post #68

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> I found that extremely disturbing that archaic religious beliefs would influence foreign policies Why? As a former atheist, I’ve come to the realization that the alternative—at least at scale—to traditional religion isn’t people being hyper rational engineers. It’s different and less well established unprovable and illogical beliefs. Have you read some of the social “science” stuff that gets published? All the “woo…

The belief that more rational beliefs are possible is not exactly debatable, is it? Certainly, the “woo” stuff you referenced is not the only alternative? That people have to believe in some “religion” and that common “religions” at the current point in history are at peak possible rationality… well, there’s no real reason to believe that, is there?

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Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by npc54321 »

golergka wrote: post #123
sofixa wrote: post #75

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It absolutely does. It doesn't deserve to deny the existence of another country, Palestine, though.

Good thing that it doesn't. Palestine became a country with thanks to Israel and Oslo Accords for the first time in history.

Cant they just stop killing each other?

I dont believe in made up books saying "this is your promised land"

I also dont believe in madeup books saying ",kill jews"

Just stop landgrabbing and/or killing each other jeez.

Defending Israel is such an NPC mentality, theres no good guys in that war they both commit atrocities.

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