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Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by simonh »

ThunderSizzle wrote: post #65
bayindirh wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's because that the religion is one of the most important factors which formed these alliances and adversaries throughout the history. Without these cultural and religious layers, what remains is same for everyone. A human body.

Sure, you are correct. But that also means Jews/Christians have a very rocky road together. Technically, "Christians" performed the Holocaust, for starters. It begs a question - when you add in Islam, why do Christians and Jews suddenly become political allies?

Because radical Islamists attack Christians and Jews equally. Actually they attack everyone that isn't a radical Islamist, including an awful lot of Muslims. In fact the vast majority of the victims of Islamist violence are other Muslims.

It's important to note that we throw around terms like The Muslims as though all Muslims and Christians, etc have the same beliefs and agenda, and that's clearly not the case.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by jollofricepeas »

dustincoates wrote: post #32
EdwardDiego wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boycotting Israel gets your company in trouble with various state governments in the US, like no supplying services to the government, and in Arkansas, it gets even more viral in that people you supply services to are forbidden from supplying services to the government. My RH contract specifically forbade boycotting Israel, I'm sure for those reasons. And of course, I imagine that Israel has laws about doing business…

I grew up in an Evangelical church and I attend a Protestant church now (although not American) and the only place I've ever heard people claim that my fellow congregants believe that about Israel is online from people outside the church. I'm sure you'll be able to find _someone_ who believes it, but it is so weird to see people claiming something as a fact about your church that you've never encountered in nearly 40…

Whoa, I strongly disagree with this.

As someone who attended an evangelical, fundamentalist Baptist church as a child (Hyles Anderson), it is very much their view as well as larger groups like Independent and Southern Baptists (the largest Protestant denomination in the United States) that the existence of the nation of Israel and support for it is a precursor for the second coming of Jesus and the fulfillment of Gods plan.

Additionally, “Christian Zionism” is embraced by Christians in Australia and Western Europe as well.

There are academic sources for this everywhere, but feel free to watch their sermons on YouTube too:

[1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/politics-and-religio...

[2] https://www.brandeis.edu/israel-center/news/newsletter-5-rob...

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by kurupt213 »

mellosouls wrote: post #61

As much as I tire of activist employee stories, at least in this instance she has resigned rather than trying to force other employees out for having different opinions which is often the case in these news items, so respect to her for that.

We don’t know that she didn’t focus on doing that until finally pushed out (I mean resigned)

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by kurupt213 »

lm28469 wrote: post #52
hobom wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling Israel an appartheid state, and your specific examples betray a state of mind which applies arbitrary standards to Israel that never get applied to literally ANY other country in the world. Some of your specific examples: "Illegal Settlers living in Palestine can vote in Israel but not Palestinians." Americans living abroad in France can vote in American elections, but note the French people. Therefore the US…

You forgot the part where the US isn't trying to invade France

We don’t need to, our hegemony is already all of western europe

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by sofixa »

kurupt213 wrote: post #70
EdwardDiego wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boycotting Israel gets your company in trouble with various state governments in the US, like no supplying services to the government, and in Arkansas, it gets even more viral in that people you supply services to are forbidden from supplying services to the government. My RH contract specifically forbade boycotting Israel, I'm sure for those reasons. And of course, I imagine that Israel has laws about doing business…

Israel deserves to exist as much as any other country

It absolutely does. It doesn't deserve to deny the existence of another country, Palestine, though.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by throw_a_grenade »

dustincoates wrote: post #32
EdwardDiego wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boycotting Israel gets your company in trouble with various state governments in the US, like no supplying services to the government, and in Arkansas, it gets even more viral in that people you supply services to are forbidden from supplying services to the government. My RH contract specifically forbade boycotting Israel, I'm sure for those reasons. And of course, I imagine that Israel has laws about doing business…

I grew up in an Evangelical church and I attend a Protestant church now (although not American) and the only place I've ever heard people claim that my fellow congregants believe that about Israel is online from people outside the church. I'm sure you'll be able to find _someone_ who believes it, but it is so weird to see people claiming something as a fact about your church that you've never encountered in nearly 40…

> What's infinitely more likely is that Christians feel a certain affinity towards Israel due to a shared Judeo-Christian heritage.

Up until they actually travel to the Holy Land to see 1) that the Christians there are either of European descend, or Palestinians (there are very few Christians of Israeli descend), 2) how Palestinians are treated by the State of Israel.

This is kinda eye-opening. You imagine that there is some "shared Judeo-Christian heritage", but after seeing this firsthand you associate the Land more with barbed wire than with Jesus.

Source: been there, seen that.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by mercy_dude »

botanical wrote: post #12

I applaud her for her courage. Israel has seemingly been given leeway to do as they please when it comes to Palestianian freedom of movement. And Google's none the better with their AI drone programme. I mean Palestinians have it hard to put it lightly. Israel is an Apartheid State that's enacting a harsh Apartheid system against these people: * Illegal Settlers living in Palestine can vote in Israel but not Palestin…

Mostly agree with you. I used to be as pro-Israel as it gets but after my visits to that area I think the burden you mr average Joe Palestinian has to bear to for example just to do normal things such as going to work or driving to see the family or take a flight that we all take for granted, is too excessive. A Palestinian depending on where he works could have somewhere between 3-5hrs commute depending on the number of checkpoints they have to cross. Now checkpoints are realities for even Israelis too but you noticeably see the difference between checkpoints on the other side and on the Palestinian side - if you have a name that even remotely sounds Arabic, even if you have an American passport you get treated harshly. Your average Joe Palestinian just gets treated like trash. Now you might say checkpoints are necessary to keep this and that safe but the reality is hundreds of thousands of people if not more are left hostages for the fault of a few bad apples who genuinely pose the threat of terrorism. Most of the average Palestinian people are good hearted people who would want to do nothing but live their lives but I can see getting treated like trash for years and going through so much hassle just to do normal things like going to work can turn them to radicalism someday. It’s a great strategy to perpetrate generational hate from society in the name of “keeping everyone safe and prevent terrorism” - and it’s visible, younger generations are significantly more radical than older ones.

Now the Palestinian leadership is absolute trash as well as they offer no real service to their people and are busy with endless corruption. And it’s visible everywhere- even areas they fully control. The other thing is there are areas in Palestinian controlled zones (C) where you can’t even go if you look white as you genuinely risk your lives. The other way around is not generally true, even though you may have to go through checkpoints.

At this point I don’t think there is any solution to this crisis unfortunately.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by batch12 »

dncornholio wrote: post #43

Not sure what disgusts me more, the term Jewglers or the fact that she faked the retaliation. This story just doesn't add up.

For what it's worth, it looks like Jewglers is a name the group calls itself [0]. It doesn't appear to be some racist phrase the employee made up.

[0] https://www.seroundtable.com/photos/google-jewglers-menorah-...

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Post by bayindirh »

simonh wrote: post #71
ThunderSizzle wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, you are correct. But that also means Jews/Christians have a very rocky road together. Technically, "Christians" performed the Holocaust, for starters. It begs a question - when you add in Islam, why do Christians and Jews suddenly become political allies?

Because radical Islamists attack Christians and Jews equally. Actually they attack everyone that isn't a radical Islamist, including an awful lot of Muslims. In fact the vast majority of the victims of Islamist violence are other Muslims. It's important to note that we throw around terms like The Muslims as though all Muslims and Christians, etc have the same beliefs and agenda, and that's clearly not the case.

Today's mainstream religion is something entirely different from yesteryear. I'm a Muslim, who has good friends who have faith in any and almost every religion (excl. extremists).

The subject is completely invisible to us except when we discuss interesting parts of the religions we believe.

I for one believe that religion is an ethics and conscience system, and when practiced correctly, all of them points to the same direction, albeit with different narratives and paths.

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