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Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Just read the NLRB dismissal letter of her complaint [0]. The NLRB found that Google decided to offer her a relocation from Mexico to Brazil before she started her BDS crusade against Google. By the way, discrimination on the basis of national origin is against Google policy and against federal and CA state law. These laws protect Israelis just like anyone else. [0] https://www.nlrb.gov/case/20-CA-286745

I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that Israelis are being attacked in this instance.

Refusing to build a data center in Israel, as Koren wanted.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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I applaud her for her courage. Israel has seemingly been given leeway to do as they please when it comes to Palestianian freedom of movement. And Google's none the better with their AI drone programme. I mean Palestinians have it hard to put it lightly. Israel is an Apartheid State that's enacting a harsh Apartheid system against these people: * Illegal Settlers living in Palestine can vote in Israel but not Palestin…

Calling Israel an appartheid state, and your specific examples betray a state of mind which applies arbitrary standards to Israel that never get applied to literally ANY other country in the world. Some of your specific examples: "Illegal Settlers living in Palestine can vote in Israel but not Palestinians." Americans living abroad in France can vote in American elections, but note the French people. Therefore the US…

You forgot the part where the US isn't trying to invade France

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boycotting Israel gets your company in trouble with various state governments in the US, like no supplying services to the government, and in Arkansas, it gets even more viral in that people you supply services to are forbidden from supplying services to the government. My RH contract specifically forbade boycotting Israel, I'm sure for those reasons. And of course, I imagine that Israel has laws about doing business…

I grew up in an Evangelical church and I attend a Protestant church now (although not American) and the only place I've ever heard people claim that my fellow congregants believe that about Israel is online from people outside the church. I'm sure you'll be able to find _someone_ who believes it, but it is so weird to see people claiming something as a fact about your church that you've never encountered in nearly 40…

> What's infinitely more likely is that Christians feel a certain affinity towards Israel due to a shared Judeo-Christian heritage.

What's really infinitely more likely is that israel and usa share some common enemies, and usa doesn't really have all that many geopolitical allies in the region to chose from. I don't know why everyone reaches for weird religious conspiracies when the obvious geopolitical explanation will do.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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“In her statement, Koren also singled out “Jewglers,” a forum for Jewish Google employees, for not accommodating Jews who hold anti-Zionist views.” Zionism is the belief that Israel has the right to exist, and that Jews have the right to live in Israel. If you are against this, your views are quite extremist and it is hard to find understanding and accommodation, particularly among fellow Jews.

Zionism is an anti-democratic, explicitly racist belief that only Jews should have governing power over all land west of the jordan river.

Is there an *ist word like racist that refers to supremacy of a religious group instead of a race?

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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post #19

I applaud her for her courage. Israel has seemingly been given leeway to do as they please when it comes to Palestianian freedom of movement. And Google's none the better with their AI drone programme. I mean Palestinians have it hard to put it lightly. Israel is an Apartheid State that's enacting a harsh Apartheid system against these people: * Illegal Settlers living in Palestine can vote in Israel but not Palestin…

in Italy whatever is said against the weekly human right violation perpetrated by Israel, newspapers will give space to the rabbi of Rome saying something like: "seems we have a nazi problem here in Italy, all the people criticising Israel clearly are just nazis in disguise" Same thing happened in Germany when they tried to forbid religious circumcision on infants.

Confusing antisemitism, anti-sionism and disagreement with the politics of Israel is a strategic ploy voluntarily put in place by expansionist lobbying groups. The most right wing part of Israel absolutely doesn’t want the world to take a look at what they are doing. As these groups contribute generously to political campaigns in the USA and Europe, politicians are all to happy to play ball. It has reached a point where you can’t even criticise what the Knesset is doing without being labelled anti-sionist and therefore antisemitic.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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> “Due to retaliation, a hostile environment, and illegal actions by the company, I cannot continue to work at Google and have no choice but to leave the company at the end of this week,” Ariel Koren said in a statement posted Tuesday to Medium. Many people is missing the point. "Retaliation" is illegal. > Google denied retaliation and the National Labor Relations Board found no wrongdoing after an investigation In m…

Boycotting Israel gets your company in trouble with various state governments in the US, like no supplying services to the government, and in Arkansas, it gets even more viral in that people you supply services to are forbidden from supplying services to the government. My RH contract specifically forbade boycotting Israel, I'm sure for those reasons. And of course, I imagine that Israel has laws about doing business…

> odd facet of belief found in some American Protestant belief systems - that for Jesus to come back, the State of Israel has to exist.

Nothing 'odd' here, if one subscribes to the notion that Revelation (the last book of the Bible) is predictive.

The idea was popularized in the 1970s by Hal Lindsey[1] whose 'The Late Great Planet Earth'[2] is amusuingly not for sale ate [1].

I guess that Lindsey was a better book peddler than prophet.

[1] https://www.hallindsey.com/

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Great_Planet_Earth

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boycotting Israel gets your company in trouble with various state governments in the US, like no supplying services to the government, and in Arkansas, it gets even more viral in that people you supply services to are forbidden from supplying services to the government. My RH contract specifically forbade boycotting Israel, I'm sure for those reasons. And of course, I imagine that Israel has laws about doing business…

I grew up in an Evangelical church and I attend a Protestant church now (although not American) and the only place I've ever heard people claim that my fellow congregants believe that about Israel is online from people outside the church. I'm sure you'll be able to find _someone_ who believes it, but it is so weird to see people claiming something as a fact about your church that you've never encountered in nearly 40…

12 years of Private christian schools.

It still shocks me how people that know nothing are the ones that define what Christian’s believe / behave.

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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> “Due to retaliation, a hostile environment, and illegal actions by the company, I cannot continue to work at Google and have no choice but to leave the company at the end of this week,” Ariel Koren said in a statement posted Tuesday to Medium. Many people is missing the point. "Retaliation" is illegal. > Google denied retaliation and the National Labor Relations Board found no wrongdoing after an investigation In m…

Boycotting Israel gets your company in trouble with various state governments in the US, like no supplying services to the government, and in Arkansas, it gets even more viral in that people you supply services to are forbidden from supplying services to the government. My RH contract specifically forbade boycotting Israel, I'm sure for those reasons. And of course, I imagine that Israel has laws about doing business…

> It's very very dumb legislation, and I think derives from a very odd facet of belief found in some American Protestant belief systems - that for Jesus to come back, the State of Israel has to exist.

I remember reading Bill Clinton's biography. At some point, he mentioned that a pastor told him something along these lines, and that it was an important realisation for him. (I read that years ago, could be slightly wrong but that was the idea).

I found that extremely disturbing that archaic religious beliefs would influence foreign policies.

That being said, it's well known that our former French president got advised by an astrologer [1]

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jun/25/jonhenley.theo...

Re: Google employee resigns after ‘retaliation’ for protesting Israeli contract

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in an Evangelical church and I attend a Protestant church now (although not American) and the only place I've ever heard people claim that my fellow congregants believe that about Israel is online from people outside the church. I'm sure you'll be able to find _someone_ who believes it, but it is so weird to see people claiming something as a fact about your church that you've never encountered in nearly 40…

> What's infinitely more likely is that Christians feel a certain affinity towards Israel due to a shared Judeo-Christian heritage. What's really infinitely more likely is that israel and usa share some common enemies, and usa doesn't really have all that many geopolitical allies in the region to chose from. I don't know why everyone reaches for weird religious conspiracies when the obvious geopolitical explanation w…

Maybe it's because that the religion is one of the most important factors which formed these alliances and adversaries throughout the history.

Without these cultural and religious layers, what remains is same for everyone. A human body.

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