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US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Remember when that hacker group showed screenshots of multiple stolen NVidia repositories with drivers source code and alledgedly detailed chip IP stuff? Now China announces a powerful GPU. https://videocardz.com/newz/hackers-now-demand-nvidia-should... https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/08/25/china-launches-the-i...

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Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn’t a better strategy be have china depend on those product but require a sorts of built-on remote control in them in case of a conflict.

Eric Schmidt, the former Google chairman, told Reuters in a recent interview that high-end processors should have kill-switches. “Knowing where the chips go is probably a very good thing. You could for example, on every chip put in essentially a public private key pair, which authenticates it and allows it to work”. hxxps://www.reuters.com/technology/chip-challenge-keeping-western-semiconductors-out-russian-weapons-2…

vacuum gapped for the next try?

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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post #251

This doesn't just ban A100s. It bans those and "any future NVIDIA integrated circuit achieving both peak performance and chip-to-chip I/O performance equal to or greater than thresholds that are roughly equivalent to the A100." It's a ceiling on the performance that can be exported. In an exponentially scaling industry, this is the equivalent of an announcement in advance of a complete ban on competitive products 2-3…

The US government has been setting the ceiling on performance that can be exported since the beginning of the computer industry. This is not really new but NVidia was caught by a surprise change in the limits.

When was this done previously?

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a ban on the export of a hard-to-manufacture physical doodad. You can't keep ideas or software from spreading practically everywhere instantly, but you can absolutely slow the spread of expensive manufactured goods.

What happened to the ideals of global unity and one humanity? Or at the very least, globalized supply chains and free markets.

Let's ask Xi Jinping.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a ban on the export of a hard-to-manufacture physical doodad. You can't keep ideas or software from spreading practically everywhere instantly, but you can absolutely slow the spread of expensive manufactured goods.

What happened to the ideals of global unity and one humanity? Or at the very least, globalized supply chains and free markets.

They remain just that: ideals. Reality is a different matter altogether.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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post #213

This doesn't just ban A100s. It bans those and "any future NVIDIA integrated circuit achieving both peak performance and chip-to-chip I/O performance equal to or greater than thresholds that are roughly equivalent to the A100." It's a ceiling on the performance that can be exported. In an exponentially scaling industry, this is the equivalent of an announcement in advance of a complete ban on competitive products 2-3…

Think of the marketing for Nvidia: "The GPU so powerful we're not allowed to export it. "

or, "A100: The F-22 Raptor of GPU's!"

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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post #65

Does that mean the US is acknowledging that Taiwan isn't China?

It seems ridiculous that we don't officially acknowledge Taiwan. But to say it's not China, might be misleading. Does the Taiwanese government still make claim on China?

Kinda yes.

To start, why Taiwan exists?

Its roots are related to how China became a republic in first place, when the Emperor was booted from power, China quickly became the land of warlordism, with generals treating their subordinates as personal army, and each warlord promoting a different ideology.

Although officially in history books people separate the period as many smaller civil wars, the fact is that China is having a single civil war that started back when the monarchy ended.

Taiwan itself originated when one of the groups in the civil war (The right Kuomingtang, beacuse by the way, the "Left Kuomingtang" is a thing and one of the few legal parties in China) was losing the war on mainland China, and had a golden opportunity in Taiwan:

Taiwan had been conquered some time before by Japan, and after WW2 ended, it was returned to China, the governor of Taiwan was very corrupt and ended pissing off the population that rioted, so Kuomingtang sent soldiers there to massacre the rioters (alongside a lot of random people). After a while they ended just sending everyone over and basically conquering the island by force.

So in a way, communist party "won" the civil war, they had almost the entirety of Mainland China, and started their communist dictatorship.

Meanwhile, Kuomingtang as they arrived on Taiwan, concluded the Taiwanese were too "japanified" and weren't "chinese enough", and decided that the right thing to do is murder people and terrorize them until they become Chinese, similar to what Mao was doing to "not communist enough" people. People call this period of time the "white terror"

So currently there are three positions about this:

1. Mainland government and a lot of people living there, support the idea Communist party must finish winning the civil war and erase Kuomingtang from the face of the earth, and take Taiwan.

2. Kuomingtang still exists, and their supporters among Taiwan's population believe they should prepare and then fight back, and win the civil war, wipe communist party out of the face of the earth, and re-take mainland China.

3. A variety of people, including a lot of native Taiwanese and pro-japan Taiwanese, want Taiwan to be a real country, that is not China, those that are more dictatorial in views want both the Communist party and the Kuomingtang gone.

Views 1 and 2 are both called "one china policy" and is how you manage to have strategic ambiguity. View 3 is what communist party is accusing Pelosi of spousing.

As for Taiwan current views: officially the government mostly claims there is one China, to avoid resuming the hot war. But pro-independence parties been making gains in elections. It might be just a matter of time until someone officially declares independence and the temporary (even if long lasting) truce ends.

I know a little some Taiwanese people, and can say they have a variety of views, one of the most obvious ones is a guy making indie games that put flag of Taiwan on his games splash screen with the phrase: "If you are not in favor of Taiwan independence you aren't human, and fuck Kuomingtang". I won't say name of games don't ask.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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post #45

A100 are current-gen Ampere NVIDIA cards on ~~Samsung's~~ TSMC's N7 processes for the datacenter, whereas H100 are next-gen Hopper NVIDIA cards on TSMC's N4 process for the datacenter.

A100, unlike the current generation consumer cards, is still made at tsmc. They just had a weird foundry split this generation.

Pascal as well! GTX1050Ti and below were at Samsung, while TSMC handled GTX1060 and above. I remember choosing a GTX1050Ti over the GTX1060 simply for the novelty, back before the first mining boom made vanity choices completely silly.

Nvidia has been with 5 fabs so far, with at least three generations of GPUs split between fabs.

ST, TSMC, IBM, UMC, and Samsung.

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