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US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by aprdm »

PheonixPharts wrote: post #192
Zircom wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is the tech sector about to collapse?

There are basically two types of companies in tech: a.) companies that don't make a profit, and b.) companies that make a profit from those companies. As an example just consider every startup is basically in category A, and Amazon's most profitable sector, AWS, in category B. For more than a decade money was more or less free and the only sane choice for investors was to pour cash into anything that might one day ge…

Which companies you think are safest right now ?

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by squeaky-clean »

fabianhjr wrote: post #46

So AMD Radeon RX is about to gain an edge on enterprise / datacenter market in China.

This just came up in my finance app news, looks like a similar cap for AMD is happening too.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/amd-says-us-told-it-stop-...

> Aug 31 (Reuters) - Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD.O) on Wednesday said U.S. officials have told it to stop exporting its top artificial intelligence chip to China, according to a spokesman.

> The company said new license requirements prevent shipment of its MI250 chips to China but it believes its MI100 chips are not affected by the new requirement.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by na85 »

Guthur wrote: post #19
RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #14

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More likely a landwar in asia.

Between whom? Hard to see any particular country having the desire or where for all to undertake such an endeavour.

>where for all

Wherewithal?

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by coolspot »

Remember when that hacker group showed screenshots of multiple stolen NVidia repositories with drivers source code and alledgedly detailed chip IP stuff?

Now China announces a powerful GPU.

https://videocardz.com/newz/hackers-now-demand-nvidia-should...

https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/08/25/china-launches-the-i...

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by squeaky-clean »

fortran77 wrote: post #80
ivalm wrote: post #49

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No, this is part of the deal. You get benefits of being an American company, but you also get the disadvantages.

It may help them -- NVIDIA is banned but not AMD GPUs. This sort-of proves that AMDs are toys, and NVIDIA is for serious work

AMD's data center chips are also getting the ban

https://www.reuters.com/technology/amd-says-us-told-it-stop-...

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by win32k »

moralestapia wrote: post #25
ajross wrote: post #17

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Depends on what you're really trying to do. Having to pay that putative 30% markup on hardware is going to be a crippling disadvantage for a China-based AI product, for example.

Hmm ... kind of ... Just buy less GPUs and run them for more time. It's not like GPU clusters are running at 100% anyway. (Also, implying China does not have enough money to buy them like that)

This is not it.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by mhh__ »

kcb wrote: post #130
fortran77 wrote: post #80

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It may help them -- NVIDIA is banned but not AMD GPUs. This sort-of proves that AMDs are toys, and NVIDIA is for serious work

> This sort-of proves that AMDs are toys, and NVIDIA is for serious work https://www.top500.org/lists/top500/2022/06/

AMD have been going for HPC and Nvidia AI, but hpc isn't that cool anymore.

Traditional hpc needs a general purpose machine, AI benefits much more from clever but immutable additional hardware.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by shotta »

na85 wrote: post #213
obblekk wrote: post #146

This doesn't just ban A100s. It bans those and "any future NVIDIA integrated circuit achieving both peak performance and chip-to-chip I/O performance equal to or greater than thresholds that are roughly equivalent to the A100." It's a ceiling on the performance that can be exported. In an exponentially scaling industry, this is the equivalent of an announcement in advance of a complete ban on competitive products 2-3…

Think of the marketing for Nvidia: "The GPU so powerful we're not allowed to export it. "

Reminds me of an old Apple ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoxvLq0dFvw
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