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US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

#71

So AMD Radeon RX is about to gain an edge on enterprise / datacenter market in China.

Well, I think Chinese providers will not entrust in US technology moving forward. Who knows when next ban would come. I think this ban will result in worse off situtation for both countries. China is a huge market for Nvidia after all. While China will become ever more isolated in the landscape of AI/Graphics community, which is a big bad news for it apparently. China will create its own GPUs eventually, but probably…

China recently announced their GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/first-wholly-domestic-chin... - from the specs, it's not bad.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

#73
post #21

Very worrying to see the restrictions against China escalating; Especially since China is incredibly advanced in hardware manufacturing and is not at war with the West. At best, this is just pushing for escalation so they can restrict exports on their side too. Even, for them. In one of their speech (in France, on a YouTube channel called Thinkerview for those who know), one of their representative quoted a Chinese p…

Mainland China has no current and short-term future capability to manufacture cutting-edge chips of the kind used in these GPUs.

SMIC just announced 7 nm and Biren announced a GPU with claimed H100-like performance.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

#75
Serious Question: What about the Apple M[x] series things?

    The M2 integrates an Apple designed ten-core (or eight-core) graphics processing unit (GPU). Each GPU core is split into 32 execution units, which each contain eight arithmetic logic units (ALUs). In total, the M2 GPU contains up to 320 execution units or 2,560 ALUs, which have a maximum floating point (FP32) performance of 3.6 TFLOPs.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

#76

And so then Russia buys them via Armenia or Kazakstan for a 30% markup... The only way to really do this is to geo-fence disable the chips.

Lol, how would geo-fencing even work/help here?

At the price of those things, bake a GPS IC deep into the chip

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the US world police is winding down (Bretton Woods era). Expect massive chaos everywhere except in US for decades to come.

Yes I read the book as well. US already has inside chaos (and will get way way, way way, way way worse), don't need to worry about other countries chaos.

The on-purpose collapse of the global American Empire is going to cause pain for the entire world.

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

#78

To me this is a pretty clear message that the US will defend Taiwan with full force.

Banning the export of sensitive technology is not exactly the equivalent to a MacArthurian full throated embrace of the nuclear arts to defend an ally.

China's repeat statements about how it vows to bring Taiwan into the fold are like the gif of a truck about to crash from multiple angles that never actually crashes: https://c.tenor.com/cD8WqQ-ZGXcAAAAC/truck-crash.gif

Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

#80
post #49

Will the US compensate NVIDIA for this?

No, this is part of the deal. You get benefits of being an American company, but you also get the disadvantages.

It may help them -- NVIDIA is banned but not AMD GPUs. This sort-of proves that AMDs are toys, and NVIDIA is for serious work
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