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DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

#94

Feels like a race to the bottom. More features, lower cost, every week. No idea where it’ll level out, but I like it. Just bought some more Dalle credits today because it’s so much fun. This is a revolution in ‘art technology’ it’s like Steve Job’s bicycle for the mind. Best I could do a month ago was a stick figure in MS Paint, but now..

Stable Diffusion is arguably better, has more features, and is free. OpenAI can't compete with free. Even if you don't want to take the 30 seconds to set it up in a free Google Colab environment, the paid DreamStudio version is still half the price of Dalle.

Also, unlike DALL-E, SD comes without a content filter and "anti-bias diversity" filter so it gives you what you ask and treats you as an adult.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

#95
So... are we done politely coughing and looking out the window at the idea that the gatekeeping was motivated by altruism so that we can move on and just use this much better innovation model going forward?

Various (subjectively judged) SOTAs on at least some subset of at least this family of tasks is changing somewhere between daily and hourly right now. I've been watching this stuff closely since fairly early ImageNet days and I've never seen a Cambrian explosion of "how the hell did that do that?" events at anything like this cadence.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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post #8

How long until we can run this over shows like Star Trek Voyager/DS9 and Seinfeld to achieve believable 16:9 scenes?

Temporal coherence will still take a while to solve but it's not undoable. Making things that look correct upon closer inspection rather than just looking "nice" will probably take some degree of human curation for quite a while.

Tesla could use some of that temporal coherence as well.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

#97

Feels like a race to the bottom. More features, lower cost, every week. No idea where it’ll level out, but I like it. Just bought some more Dalle credits today because it’s so much fun. This is a revolution in ‘art technology’ it’s like Steve Job’s bicycle for the mind. Best I could do a month ago was a stick figure in MS Paint, but now..

I share your enthusiasm for this development but curious what you mean by race to the bottom?

There does seem to be a lot of vague angst about how this will affect the nascent "Prompt Engineer" career track, but I hope most are comfortable letting the open innovation play out a bit before trying to personally monetize it..

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

#98
post #8

How long until we can run this over shows like Star Trek Voyager/DS9 and Seinfeld to achieve believable 16:9 scenes?

Why would you do that? What an awful idea. People made those shows in the 4:3 format, you’d just be adding fluff. This is like adding more description to a book so it becomes an epic novel instead of a novella. I’d say keep to the creators intent…

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

#99
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people. Good riddance. Squatting the name "open" and trying to reap the benefits therein while being anything but.

What benefits? The parent is non-profit. I'd argue they're imperfect, but they don't look like arses. Big gap between the two, too.

The parent may be non-profit, but OpenAI LP accepts investments and delivers returns to investors like any other regular company. The only difference is that they 'cap' the returns. However, the cap is negotiated with individuals investor and I haven't seen anything disclosing the cap except for the fact that in the opening round the cap was 100x the initial investment.

100x seems like a pretty generous cap to me.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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post #34

A few weeks ago I was skeptical that this technology would get past the emotional response we get from procedurally generated game environments, but I've been convinced otherwise. The emotional response I get from some of the best of these images are novel and thought provoking. Makes me wonder what percent of what makes us human is now algorithmically solved....

My wife likes impressionists and sunflowers. "A lone sunflower in a grassy field at sunset oil painting claude monet" plus stable-diffusion and a few minutes of tweaking some settings; she now has a new desktop background.
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