Things not available when someone blocks all cookies

Post by yamazakiwi » Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 4:50 PM UTC

galdosdi wrote: post #111

salawat wrote: post #28

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This is absolutely unacceptable. No. The solution to "software authors routinely collecting more info than they should" is not "accept the behavior as irredeemable, and just normalize it". The answer is "make ot way more visible to users when it is done, snd make it harder for software authors to do/maintain." Anything else is just a tacit acknowledgement and grant of legitimacy to the behavior in question.

Just the opposite. What this would normalize is app developers no longer be able to depend on location data being accurate, which would destroy the location data sales market by turning it into a market for lemons. What you propose, simply yelling at developers to stop requesting unneeded permissions, would have no useful effect. They won't change. And most customers won't care and will blindly click accept no matter…

Post by sph » Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 4:55 PM UTC

bmismyname wrote: post #63

cbsks wrote: post #51

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I’ve been using Cookie AutoDelete for that purpose for the last few years. It works flawlessly for me and brings me comfort in knowing that I am only being tracked online by my browser fingerprint and IP. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-autode...

Same, I absolutely love this extension. You can whitelist the websites you use frequently, and for everything else it's like a groundhog day every day. The cookie banners can be super annoying sometimes, but they are easily removed with uBlock Origin. I also frequently have to solve captchas, but it's not so bad. For example, every time I visit amazon.com to order toilet paper or whatever, it thinks I'm a bot, but at…

Post by Maursault » Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 5:00 PM UTC

mcv wrote: post #41

I often think that instead of completely blocking cookies, it would be better to accept them and then throw them away. Same with localStorage. Just store it temporarily.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 5:02 PM UTC

MereInterest wrote: post #104

jefftk wrote: post #17

> All I am using is some innocent localStorage and IndexedDB to persist user settings like the values of the sliders or the chosen color scheme. When you turn off cookies you're telling the browser not to let sites persist information. Otherwise, whatever goals you had in disabling cookies would just be worked around through these other technologies.

Especially with single-page applications, I would love for there to be a way for a page to have either access to persistent store or network connections, but not both. A site could load all resources, then announce to the browser that it would like to have access to whatever it stored the previous time. The browser would grant access to the local information, and simultaneously take away access from ever initiating a…

Post by jefftk » Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 5:06 PM UTC

legitster wrote: post #119

jefftk wrote: post #17

> All I am using is some innocent localStorage and IndexedDB to persist user settings like the values of the sliders or the chosen color scheme. When you turn off cookies you're telling the browser not to let sites persist information. Otherwise, whatever goals you had in disabling cookies would just be worked around through these other technologies.

Came here to say this. If anything, a cookie that is not cross-domain is more innocent than localStorage.