I think the discussion about artists is premature, but the power of releasing something for free cannot be underestimated, again
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#142After using SD heavily for a week, I half agree with this. It is incredibly disruptive, and it's wild how much it accelerates the creative process. I'll give you that. But two things I've noticed: First, artists will still have a massive advantage over non-artists with this tool. A photographer who intimately knows the different lenses and cameras and industry terms will get to a representation of their idea much fas…
> artists will still have a massive advantage over non-artists with this tool. Good; I hope the future of software engineering AI generative tooling is also more useful for software engineers.
Ultimately software engineering isn’t about code, it’s about describing in sufficient detail exactly what you want. Of course, this just leads to business analysts and ux designers being the next ones to be replaced after coders… :P
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#143One day, images generated with these AIs will become ubiquitous online, and new AIs training on data will wind up with feedback problems because they got trained on photos that are AI generated, possibly even ones they themselves generated! This tech is a huge deal. Huge. Ubiquitous unique, beautiful art. Entire movies made by machines. Too many to even watch them all. Actor models that aren't real people owned by th…
> One day, images generated with these AIs will become ubiquitous online, and new AIs training on data will wind up with feedback problems because they got trained on photos that are AI generated, possibly even ones they themselves generated!
Possibly but not necessarily. The human curation prior to posting as well as additional textual context associated with the image could be valuable training signal, even if there is some feedback.
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#144Is this going to start changing the world as much as search did? My guess within 10 years AI will have changed everything, it won’t look like AGI but it’ll be good enough to be better than humans at most creative endeavours including things like generating whole films and possibly games with a few carefully arranged text prompts and start images. Quite terrifying.
I wonder if it will be possible to train a neural network to do our programming tasks for us?
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#145Regarding the ethics. Thought experiment: I look at a copyrighted image, get inspiration, and then draw a new image (which is not the same as the copyrighted image). Is that ethical? But if I do this millions of times, after looking at millions of copyrighted images, is it still ethical (as long as I don't recreated copyrighted images)? Tough questions!
Isn't this how the human brain works as well?
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> “Defendant built an algorithm that memorized features of Plaintiff’s IP. Defendant’s algorithm recombines parts of those features in order to produce works in the same domain that compete with Plaintiff’s work, all without Plaintiff’s consent.” The fun part is, this is how human artists learn too.
They absolutely do. What they don’t do is mechanistically clone compressed mathematical representations of input data. The human part of the creative process could very well be a distinguishing feature, legally.
> What they don’t do is mechanistically clone compressed mathematical representations of input data.
Don’t they, though? What else do you think is behind the curtain if not mathematics?
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#147These new models completely changed my mind about how much impact AI will have in my lifetime. They are the most impressive software achievements in decades and anyone who has a “meh” reaction will absolutely end up looking silly. I’m not optimistic that their impact will be positive though.
It may be like WWW or cryptocurrency, where it was great the first 10 years then started getting ugly. Could happen much faster this time though.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Training these models is much much cheaper than you think it is, and there’s good data for it already. Either use a CC0 set like Wikimedia/Flickr and throw in some dead artists like Brueghel, or train on data from a country we don’t respect the IP of. Lots of Taobao product photos out there. It’s enough.
You are getting ridiculous now. Training this on "Taobao product photos" will lead to a useless model that is unable to produce practically all of the "cool" demos posted here in the last week.
A few months ago this task was virtually impossible. Then it was possible, but extremely expensive and pay-walled behind the "Open"AI' website.
As of about a week ago this tech runs on consumer GPUs. The weights have been downloaded 100s of thousands of times, and fine-tuning / modifying is possible.
Training from scratch is about $500k still, but it will only get cheaper and easier.
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#150Are there any standards/frameworks emerging on how to write texts/prompts?