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Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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Note that in Russian doctrine as tought in universities, the Cold War never ended.

This seems like needless pedantry at least for a conversation outside of school. The USSR (with whom the Cold War was being fought) was dissolved and Germany was reunified. For all intents and purposes it did end, just a new conflict (now with Russia) began.

Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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I was taught that Ronald Reagan ended the cold war and gave us the longest lasting economic boom.

He did. It's just that leftists in the US won't accept that and pretend that the Cold War just "ended" one day, because of the goodwill of the Russians, not because the US policy forced them into bankruptcy.

Dang, good move to force a whole country into bankruptcy.

Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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Hard to know the man behind the image, but Gorbachev seemed like a fundamentally decent man, who was perhaps over his head at a moment no one could be reasonably be expected to prepare for. Still, with him at the helm of the sinking ship, chaos and conflict was at least avoided, or at least deferred, and for that we should be thankful. RIP

Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle, in the sense that it never ended. It only took a back seat in the media while Russia was disorganized.

it ended for 150 or so million people in Eastern Europe, that were freed from Russia.

Eastern _and_ Western Europe.

Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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Rest in peace, Mikhail Sergeevich. You were an old school enough to perhaps not understand fully what you did to the people of former USSR, but even misunderstood it certainly was once-in-an-era kind of great.

Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle, in the sense that it never ended. It only took a back seat in the media while Russia was disorganized.

it ended for 150 or so million people in Eastern Europe, that were freed from Russia.

Ended or postponed?

Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He did. It's just that leftists in the US won't accept that and pretend that the Cold War just "ended" one day, because of the goodwill of the Russians, not because the US policy forced them into bankruptcy.

Dang, good move to force a whole country into bankruptcy.

Seems to be working for China, as well.

Re: Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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RIP Gorbachev, one of the few genuinely good people in politics.

After he retired from politics, he was featured in several advertisements:

- In 1994 for Apple Computer: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1994/10/07/The-first-advertisem...

- In 1998 for Pizza Hut: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorbachev_Pizza_Hut_commercial

- In 2000 for the ÖBB, the Austrian railways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLscz8kEg6c

- In 2007 for Louis Vuitton: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/05/business/media/05vuitton....

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