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Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

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There was a time that I turned to buying from walmart.com as alternative to amazon, precisely because it wasn't taking the 3rd-party seller approach; but then they decided they had to imitate Amazon. Well, no thanks.

For others that are trying to avoid 3rd party sellers: look for Sold and shipped by Walmart.com

As far as I'm aware they don't comingle 3rd party inventory like "Sold and shipped by Amazon.com" does.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

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What I find particularly annoying is that these online “marketplaces” are not curated - they literally sell anything, probably drop shipped. It used to be that you would shop at a branded store, and there was a level of expectation that they had curated their collection so that it was of a quality that matched the stores brand. Some of their wares may be under their own branding, but they would sell other bands too t…

Are sold by "Amazon", "Walmart", "NewEgg" not curated? Amazon also has multiple curated store fronts, or collections, to my knowledge. In 2022 if you aren't buying "Sold by " on one of these market places then I think you should know what you are getting into.

In the case of Amazon, I don’t believe they always do enough due diligence on items under the “Sold by Amazon” banner. The overriding issue is that by combining both their own curetted product line and the open marketplace into one storefront, the third party sellers devalue the main brand. I just don’t trust that even buying a “sold by Amazon” product will be any good. There is also just too much choice, you feel like you are being scammed the minute you open Amazon.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find particularly annoying is that these online “marketplaces” are not curated - they literally sell anything, probably drop shipped. It used to be that you would shop at a branded store, and there was a level of expectation that they had curated their collection so that it was of a quality that matched the stores brand. Some of their wares may be under their own branding, but they would sell other bands too t…

Are sold by "Amazon", "Walmart", "NewEgg" not curated? Amazon also has multiple curated store fronts, or collections, to my knowledge. In 2022 if you aren't buying "Sold by " on one of these market places then I think you should know what you are getting into.

Perhaps, but then commingling ruins it. You have no idea if the SD card/SSD/HDD you've bought is actually from Amazon or a if it's a fake/knockoff by a shady third party, even if it's "shipped and sold by Amazon"

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

#94

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There was a baseline expecting of quality, because Walmart would not be expected to buy from counterfeiters. For example, if I buy 3 mule team borax from Walmart, I expect it to come via official sources. If I buy 3 mule team borax from a Walmart reseller, I have no idea where it is sourced from or how much those entities care about reputation. It could be from 3 mule team, it could be counterfeit.

Branded borax ? It's a mineral, coming out of the same mines no matter what brand you buy.

2 mule borex- 10% genuine borax and 90% drywall mud dust.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

#95
If you think 30TB fake hard drives are bad, the Amazon marketplace is now selling Taliban flags printed by 3rd party sellers in China. At least there's no ISIS flags yet.

I assume whatever flag factory in china is cranking out $10 flags doesn't care about the content of what's printed on them.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find particularly annoying is that these online “marketplaces” are not curated - they literally sell anything, probably drop shipped. It used to be that you would shop at a branded store, and there was a level of expectation that they had curated their collection so that it was of a quality that matched the stores brand. Some of their wares may be under their own branding, but they would sell other bands too t…

Yep, I relatively recently learned about Aliexpress and it seems like most American retailers are just a local cache for them. But if I can order sketchy Chinese knick-knacks directly and skip the markup at the cost of a bit more waiting time, I'd just as soon do that. I've also found the Chinese customer service speaks English just fine and have been great whenever I've had to deal with them.

I have become an AliExpress enthusiast and agree. It works best when you are willing to wait a variable amount of time for your items. Often, it will only take 2-3 weeks for them to arrive at my home in California. But every 6th package (or so) will slip through the cracks, often at their warehouses in LA County.

It's still the best for pricing, and is pretty close to the sources (unless you're hardcore enough to translate Taobao listings and get your own mail forwarding). For example, I got a new smartwatch and wanted some bands in specific colors, and a screen protector. Listings with the exact same images on Amazon were $9-12 instead of $3-4. (And when you compared reviews and pictures, they were probably from the same factory.)

Some small notes about AliExpress:

- Although most of AliExpress's lower prices come from lower cost warehouses and less middlemen, some of it comes from exploiting discounted postage. [That has been improved since 2019](https://www.parcelandpostaltechnologyinternational.com/opini...) but I still get a ton of Kyrgyzstani-labeled parcels that originated from Guangdong or Shanghai/Hangzhou. I don't know if that's above-board or not.

- Sellers can sometimes be deceptive. When I was shopping for LED interior lights for an old car, some lumen ratings seemed accurate and even had videos of it being tested. Others had obviously inflated brightnesses despite having a similar number of LEDs are power consumption. In addition, some sellers will sneak an unrelated cheap item into variants of another item, so the listing has a lower price in search results.

- Packages now take a few days to be consolidated. This is great for efficiency and often means you get slightly faster delivery in your home country. But these packages can still get lost, so you may have to dispute up to a dozen items at a time. I might have to do this soon with all my smartwatch accessories, and in the meantime, pray my screen doesn't get scratched (or eat the inflated Amazon/eBay price).

- Compared to Amazon, they have fewer customer reviews, and don't stack listings for the same item. In disputes, customer service won't always favor you or offer a complete refund for bad items.

- Compared to eBay, they have much worse search filtering. You may wish to consider eBay for a balance of cheap prices and faster shipping, especially when you filter for sellers within 100 miles. Sometimes Chinese eBay sellers are cheaper than AliExpress sellers.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

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It has happened to me a few times that I order from Walmart, see a shipment notification, that shipment "arrives" but definitely did not. However that day or the next I receive an Amazon package which I did not order containing my product. So no, ordering from Walmart does not guarantee anything is going through their supply chain.

Was that from Walmart the retailer or someone else selling on Walmart's marketplace? I would be very surprised if Walmart itself resold you something from Amazon, but that does happen with third party retailers on their marketplace.

This happens in more than just Walmart - there are arbitrage experts that list product on eBay, Walmart, etc and just order it for you from Amazon.

I’m not exactly sure how they make money as the prices are often nearly identical.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

#98
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There was a time that I turned to buying from walmart.com as alternative to amazon, precisely because it wasn't taking the 3rd-party seller approach; but then they decided they had to imitate Amazon. Well, no thanks.

Sorry I am confused can’t you filter by Walmart sold vs third party?

The trick I do is “pickup today or ship to store” as that gets Walmart only items as far as I can tell.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

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The marketplace-ization (is there a word for that?) of every retailer feels so short sighted. I’ll throw out an example I’ve noticed lately - furniture manufacturers. Search for any item on Crate & Barrel or West Elm’s website and you’ll first see a handful of exclusive pieces that are clearly built for the brand. Keep scrolling and the search results gradually become a bunch of generic third party items that you can…

And in Walmart's case, it's particularly egregious - the value proposition "Here's a website where you can buy anything that's sold at Walmart, for cheap-ass Walmart prices and we'll ship it to you, and you don't have to go into some crappy Walmart to do it" is appealing and seems like it would generate billions in revenue. But the reality is terrible; lots of stuff is 'in-store purchase only', some of it they won't ship but will only deliver from the local store for a fee, some of it is garbage only sold by third parties for wildly unpredictable prices. And the site is full of dark patterns to make it difficult to tell which is which until you try to check out. And on top of all that, which products are in which category change constantly. So you can try to re-order something that you got before, but now it's in-store only, or the price has gone up 50x and it's shipped by a 3rd party with a 6-8 week arrival time.

For a while, I used Walmart.com to stock up on name-brand staples cheaply and conveniently, but it got to be such a pain in the ass that I went back to Costco.

Re: Walmart Sells Fake 30TB Hard Drive That's Two Small SD Cards

#100
Seems like I read something like this long ago NOT being a bad thing. Walmart was selling an external USB 5g drive or something, when 5g was gigantic, cheaper than 5g drives were selling for.

So we'd buy the external, take the IDE drive out, and have a cheap 5g IDE drive. And we liked it.

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