Can others confirm? I’m a Telegram user, located in Germany, with a German phone number and didn’t receive such a message.
Telegram is asking German users when to share information with law enforcement
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#22Can others confirm? I’m a Telegram user, located in Germany, with a German phone number and didn’t receive such a message.
Confirmed.
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#23Hi, German here. How about not storing any information at all? Nothing to give, problem solved. Just like Signal. I seriously don’t understand why people use Telegram instead of Signal. Any reason! The app doesn’t solve any privacy problem, default chats are unencrypted, keeps personal info. App should be dead already or turned into a dating app because it’s clearly not seriously privacy fucused.
Because you lose all your chat history without any way to export it.
I unfortunately have convinced some of my relatives to use Signal without me looking into it beforehand.
Now because of Signal’s moronic design I dread the day when something happens and I decide I want to save all our chats for posterity / memories, but wouldn’t be able to. There is simply no “export” button. There is some way to do it on Android but on iOS we are SOL.
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#24I don’t think the companies sharing the info is wrong. I think sealed warrants and sealed indictments are wrong. The accused/suspected should have a chance to fight to maintain privacy.
At a minimum, users should be informed that their info was shared with government.
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#25I wonder if such 'polls' would work to gate all major changes to a popular app?
Eg. Would users have been more accepting of YouTube removing the dislike button if the proposal had won a user poll?
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#26Hi, German here. How about not storing any information at all? Nothing to give, problem solved. Just like Signal. I seriously don’t understand why people use Telegram instead of Signal. Any reason! The app doesn’t solve any privacy problem, default chats are unencrypted, keeps personal info. App should be dead already or turned into a dating app because it’s clearly not seriously privacy fucused.
Telegram seems to have captured some of thr discord market and seems to do "group" stuff a lot better UX wise.
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#27Where are German users supposed to have received this message? I'm not German but my telegram account is registered with a German number and I haven't received anything
I've received the message an hour ago.
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#28Can others confirm? I’m a Telegram user, located in Germany, with a German phone number and didn’t receive such a message.
I can confirm. After selecting an answer the poll even shows percentages.
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#29Is there anything special going on in Germany atm to prompt this? I‘m slighlty confused why they would do such a poll…
Telegram is considered a platform for people, which do not respect the basic values of democracy like groups far right expressing xenophobia and groups which think (and express loudly) of the COVID measures as repression by some elite against the common citizen. Most of them whish for a autoritarian government. Groups which act against the constitution are observed by the Verfassungsschutz, an authority to protect the democracy and constitution in Germany. On telegram those extreme thoughts can be shared whithin their bubble which catalysts them.
I don't know if this is the majority of users of Telegram (probably not), but it is strongly associated with them.
Those are the things I gathered by lightly consuming news. Maybe this is some kind of preparation for winter, where COVID cases are expected to rise in combination with very high energy prices.
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#30Sadly I think that it is the slippery slope for Telegram. Instead of the spirit of privacy first, they start to concede little by little for commercial interests. First it is just the IP and phone number. Then, it will be extended to contacts. Because, why not, that can be useful also for "terrorist investigations". Then it will be chat history,because it makes sense, the police has a warrant... And telegram is techn…
The majority is currently for a court order, which doesn't indicate a slippery slope. If they wanted to be shady, they wouldn't have made a poll at all, which also implies the expectation of discussion around the topic.