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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by 4m1rk »

sudhirj wrote: post #58

We have this kind of censorship in India as well, even the in weirdly innocous places. In James Bond movies, and I think Gone Girl as well, scenes were by zooming into character's faces or just straight cuts. This is probably the only reason I maintain a US iTunes accounts (used to have to buy gift cards from sketchy sites online to keep this going, but I recently discovered that my Indian Amex card works fine with a…

I didn't expect India! Iran for sure does that too. The zoom part was kind of nostalgic :) they are getting better and better (just technically). They were even covering women bodies!

Shit load of money and resources for these nonesense censorships.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by computerfriend »

forgingahead wrote: post #537

Having accidentally seen gratuitous gore on shows like Game of Thrones on HBO or The Boys on Amazon, I'm not against a general set of standards to avoid the assault on my eyes (or the eyes of younger members of society). In my day, you could always get the uncut version on DVD if you want to - but the mass market versions should certainly adhere to some basic societal standards.

Don't watch it if you don't want to. Take responsibility for the media you consume.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by bnjms »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #530
koheripbal wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit like Jewish, Irish, Japanese, Korean, or Italian stereotypes in movies/tv - few real members of those groups get offended because we're not currently disadvantaged.

Currently disadvantaged? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U... Indian Americans have a median household income of $126,705. By comparison English Americans are at $78,078.

Yes and this was the point made. You’ve exactly misunderstood they are including Indian Americans as non-disadvantaged.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by hunter2_ »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #514
lozenge wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A 10 second clip of a movie that is designed to be stitched with 710 other 10 second clips isn't fair use, it's just copyright infringement. "In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:[8] the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; the nature of t…

We're talking about first sale doctrine here, not fair use. If I did the exact same thing with a VHS tape, cutting out 10 second strips of tape and renting them out to people, that'd be totally legal under first sale doctrine. Doing that with VHS would be totally impractical but legal. Doing it with a digital file would be totally practical but illegal, since currently first sale doctrine doesn't apply to digital dis…

> Doing it with a digital file ... digital distribution ... extend first sale doctrine to digital files

I fully understand, but there's got to be a better way to describe this line in the sand given that DVDs contain digital files. "Physical" doesn't work because networks have a physical layer. "Stream" is also problematic because bitstreams are present on any kind of media. Even "network" doesn't quite cut the mustard because a chain of video stores could be described as a trade network. "Tangible" comes damn close, but suppose the baud rate is slow enough and the voltage high enough that I can discern the download by touching the wire? What, then, is the unambiguous word for what we're talking about here?

If it really boils down to letting time elapse between views/customers, shouldn't that be what the law demands?

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by unmole »

ginger2016 wrote: post #310
sudhirj wrote: post #58

We have this kind of censorship in India as well, even the in weirdly innocous places. In James Bond movies, and I think Gone Girl as well, scenes were by zooming into character's faces or just straight cuts. This is probably the only reason I maintain a US iTunes accounts (used to have to buy gift cards from sketchy sites online to keep this going, but I recently discovered that my Indian Amex card works fine with a…

Given the racist protrayal of Indian American Raj Kuthrapalli, I am of the opinion Indians are magnanimous in allowing this show to be aired there.

> Given the racist protrayal of Indian American Raj Kuthrapalli

The racism is entirely in your imagination.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by ipnon »

jwmoz wrote: post #633

Long live Taiwan.

Censorship was just as widespread if not worse in Taiwan before the military dictatorship fell away. The smash hit "When Will You Return?" by the cross-strait superstar Teresa Tang was censored: The titular "you" pronounced in Mandarin rhymes with the word for "army." "When Will The Army Return?" was never going to be a hit with the military dictatorship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Taiwan#Music%20a...

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by kiratp »

eyear wrote: post #592

Where is the diversity we advocate? Must the whole world accept one value? We accept homosexuality so we won't accept other people like Muslims not accepting it? So WE are definitely right and people who are different from us are absolutely wrong?

The good ol’ Paradox of Tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by unmole »

ginger2016 wrote: post #536
Dig1t wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it's comedy, it's obviously not hateful. The whole point was that all the main characters were stereotypical nerds and each displayed a different type social difficulty. I mean Sheldon was obviously supposed to be somewhere on the autistic spectrum, how is that not ableist or whatever? It was also apart of his character arc! If you watch the show, Raj eventually overcomes his fear of talking to women and ends…

Almost 10 years ago MTVIndia said the same thing I said about Big Bang Theory. https://twitter.com/MTVIndia/status/379879685863129088?s=20&...

As far as appeals to authority go, it's hard to do worse than MTV India.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by anthropodie »

4m1rk wrote: post #631
sudhirj wrote: post #58

We have this kind of censorship in India as well, even the in weirdly innocous places. In James Bond movies, and I think Gone Girl as well, scenes were by zooming into character's faces or just straight cuts. This is probably the only reason I maintain a US iTunes accounts (used to have to buy gift cards from sketchy sites online to keep this going, but I recently discovered that my Indian Amex card works fine with a…

I didn't expect India! Iran for sure does that too. The zoom part was kind of nostalgic :) they are getting better and better (just technically). They were even covering women bodies! Shit load of money and resources for these nonesense censorships.

I'm from India and I have seen shows like BBT, HIMYM, Friends, etc,. dozen of times on different national televisions and then again on streaming platforms. I have not seen a single instance of censorship in these shows(except for subtitles replacing words like Fuck with ** on national television). I'm not saying we don't censor at all but it's definitely not as bad as this post or GP is saying.
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