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Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead.

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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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It was removed during some Comedy Central marathon lmao, it’s still a part of the series, no episode was renumbered, and it’s on Peacock which might as well be the canonical streaming source

I saw it mentioned elsewhere as removed from Netflix, glad it’s up on the NBC streaming service.

The Office isn't on Netflix US anymore. But I can still see that episode here in Canada.

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I find that it's always interesting to THEN consider, okay -- while there's no centralized board or anything -- what does e.g. American censorship go after?

The US _does_ have examples of government censorship in media, some more extreme than others. The fact you don't even think of it as censorship just shows how prevalent it is. It's not on the same level as the CCP, but it does exist! For example, during the AIDs epidemic, Reagan used his social and political power to effectively ban the mention of that word on primetime television (remember, not only was he the presi…

This sounds a little crazy. AIDS was definitely discussed in TV in the 80s. First of all on the news all the time, but in prime time dramas and sitcom as well. CNN documents several examples.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/01/entertainment/80s-hollywood-a...

St Elsewhere might have been the first in 1983. Golden Girls, Trapper John MD. There was plenty of hesitancy to deal with a difficult subject, and the gay element compounded the difficulty (openly gay characters were not common). But to suggest it was at the direction of the Federal Govt is totally absurd. Reagan was as disliked and mocked almost as much as Trump was.

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Part of me still thinks Aereo wasn't honest with their technology. They showed off massive boards full of miniature UHF antennae, but a tuner/encoder is more than that. They never showed that part.

It doesn't matter. The Supreme Court's logic was "sure, every individual part of this is completely legal, but if you consider it as a black box, it feels like a different thing which is illegal, so we're going to treat it like it's illegal thing." That conclusion was pretty likely, but it's utterly baffling to someone who thinks about the law like a programmer. To put it in the Supreme Court's exact words: "Given Ae…

> it's utterly baffling to someone who thinks about the law like a programmer.

Programmers seem to think about the law like a program, like a set of rules governing system behaviour and so long as they are not directly violated, this one neat trick judges hate will let them do whatever it is without recourse. But that's not true, firstly because the law is fuzzy and deals with human behaviour, including taking wider views, intent and mitigating circumstances into account, and secondly taking decades or centuries of established case law into account too.

It's why things like "smart contracts" are not the end run around the judicial process that their creators would like...

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This happens in the West too. For example one of my favourite shows, "Peep Show" has a scene removed because one of the main characters wears black face to break social taboos. Obviously, it's done in a mocking way, but even mocking someone for black face has been deemed inappropriate by modern Western standards. The show isn't even that old either. I'm almost certain there would be things seen as normal or inoffensi…

Peep Show was not edited due to laws, it was a private streaming service that made that decision. At the same time a rival streaming service was showing the unedited version. I think there is an important conversation to be had about censorship by large corporations but equating them to widespread, governmental censorship is not helpful.

On the contrary, censorship is effective even if it only makes something less common. No censorship is absolute: Chinese people absolutely know homosexuality exists, what its censorship accomplishes is keeping it the province of the “weirdos”. Towards the same end, the USG regularly uses financial incentives to make one side of an issue 100x more prevalent than the other. It’s actually a more insidious form of censorship, because there’s less legal oversight, most people don’t know that it’s happening, and it’s hard to call out any particular instance of it.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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I find that it's always interesting to THEN consider, okay -- while there's no centralized board or anything -- what does e.g. American censorship go after?

America is much more sensitive about sex and nudity than a lot of other cultures. In I, Robot , a scene that showed in the European version did not show in the US version. It was a full body nudity shower scene and the point was to show you how extensive his robotic parts were. They had to find some other means to explain that to the audience in the US and it wasn't even a sexual scene. Just full nudity (of Will Smit…

In I, Robot, a scene that showed in the European version did not show in the US version. It was a full body nudity shower scene and the point was to show you how extensive his robotic parts were. They had to find some other means to explain that to the audience in the US and it wasn't even a sexual scene. Just full nudity

Are you sure this is true, and not an apocryphal story? I've seen the German and US version of the movie, and they are identical. There is a nude shower scene in both, and Will Smith uses has hand to cover his groin.

I've seen two interviews, one where he said his penis was so big they had to tape it down, and a second where it was so big, they had to CGI it out because it was distracting. They both seem like they may have been self serving jokes that got evolved into the "full frontal I Robot euro cut."

It is also possible that a Euro theatrical version with full frontal existed, but the DVD/BluRay releases used the US cut.

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> America is much more sensitive about sex and nudity than a lot of other cultures Nudity.. maybe. Sex? Most American shows I have seen just CANNOT STOP talking about sex. Sure, they won't display it, but it's all about it. Even TBBT. (FWIW, comparing to Czech culture and TV series.)

Movies have gotten surprisingly sexless (MCU has even less sex than you'd expect from a superhero movie) so some kinds of TV shows have been pumping it up to compensate. Of course, they're not really TV shows anymore when they're unregulated streaming programs.

Top Gun vs Maverick is a good example. Top Gun has a long, steamy, but non-explicit sex scene. Maverick has an extremely short, clothed, mostly implied sex scene.

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Wow, this was an interesting Google images journey, thanks. Also, is it just my own personal bias, or would I be right to say that imagery with such close bonding between males (2 particular example links below) would not have been used in the west due to concern of being interpreted as gay? http://www.daokedao.ru/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/navek... https://cs14.pikabu.ru/post_img/2022/03/11/4/164697462011834...

I don't know. Such connotations may also depend not only on west / east, but also on time. Those placards are from 60-70 years ago I think. See also https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%...

Interesting, but I would argue that this is actually supporting the West/East distinction, as this kind of imagery would have fit closely with the USSR's push to promote the communist "workers of the world unite" agenda.

Would you be able to find any similar western imagery from that time frame?

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Citation needed. Please show an example of a foreign piece of content which has been chopped to bits by the US government before being allowed to be distributed here.

Broadcast anime on daytime television. While companies like 4Kids that did the actual censoring (like digitally editing cells) and replacing lines ( "localization" as they would call it), it is the FCC that has power over broadcast licensing and provides a disincentive for showing work that soccer moms found distasteful, even if otherwise covered under the First Amendment.

broadcast != distribution

It's not illegal to import/purchase the unedited original versions with guns, deaths, and nudity (excluding lolita). With online streaming being the norm now, the government has no say in the content consumed.

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