AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
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Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#2I'm mixed. Definitely a very competent chip, great perf & efficiency gains, a fairly lovely new platform.
$700 for the 16-core 7950X chip is well into HEDT price range, and while this has the CPU oomph everything else is missing. It's more $/core than what EPYC launched at, with a 16 core EPYC 7281 running $650. That had half the MHz & wasn't as good an architecture, but it also 128 lanes of PCIe (3.0 in Naples then 4.0 in Rome) and 8 channels of memory, versus 28 PCIe lanes (5.0!) / 2 channel memory (oof); that's a huge advantage.
Hopefully Intel can start shipping new process nodes again & the competition can come-back.
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#3I'm mixed. Definitely a very competent chip, great perf & efficiency gains, a fairly lovely new platform. $700 for the 16-core 7950X chip is well into HEDT price range, and while this has the CPU oomph everything else is missing. It's more $/core than what EPYC launched at, with a 16 core EPYC 7281 running $650. That had half the MHz & wasn't as good an architecture, but it also 128 lanes of PCIe (3.0 in Naples then…
Ryzen 9 has always been >$500 HEDT without the HEDT socket. I assume Genoa will cost even more.
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#4I'm mixed. Definitely a very competent chip, great perf & efficiency gains, a fairly lovely new platform. $700 for the 16-core 7950X chip is well into HEDT price range, and while this has the CPU oomph everything else is missing. It's more $/core than what EPYC launched at, with a 16 core EPYC 7281 running $650. That had half the MHz & wasn't as good an architecture, but it also 128 lanes of PCIe (3.0 in Naples then…
The Ryzen 9 5950x launched just under two years ago at $800. This is an improvement on those prices.
The improvements in IPC over the original Zen core of the EPYC 7281 are quite substantial, and AMD is in a much better position than it was those five long years ago.
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#5Die Area of only 3.84mm2 for Core + L2. This is a similar to Apple A14/A15. On TSMC N5 although they are likely different variant, optimising for clockspeed rather than Low Power.
13% increase in IPC, and additional clock speed increase as well from N5. The server variant Zen4C with 128 Core per socket should compete fairly well with Ampere ARM variant.
I just hope AMD is a little more ambitious than they were and book way more 5nm capacity. They have been way too conservatives with their forecast on their CPU side.
Its been a very very long time since I was last excited about anything in the PC /x86 space. For the past 8 to 10 years it has been mostly about Smartphones, ARM and Apple.
Still sad I couldn't hold on to my AMD stock, I bought them at below $3. Sigh.
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#6Love that these include a basic igpu. Makes them much more viable for home server and low end desktops(when eventually discounted).
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#7I'm mixed. Definitely a very competent chip, great perf & efficiency gains, a fairly lovely new platform. $700 for the 16-core 7950X chip is well into HEDT price range, and while this has the CPU oomph everything else is missing. It's more $/core than what EPYC launched at, with a 16 core EPYC 7281 running $650. That had half the MHz & wasn't as good an architecture, but it also 128 lanes of PCIe (3.0 in Naples then…
imo, it's the opposite. compared to the original thread rippers, this chip has way more pcie (gen 5 vs gen3) and although it has less ram bandwidth, 64mb of l3 cache mean you don't need it as much. this costs as much as the original threadrippers did because they are the replacement for that class of chips.
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#8Love that these include a basic igpu. Makes them much more viable for home server and low end desktops(when eventually discounted).
This makes these machines a lot more viable in the business and engineering world as well where CPU performance is desired but graphics is not. I've seen in the past AMD Zen machines paired with say a GT710 simply because it was the cheapest GPU option available that would allow for basic apps and drive two screens.
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#9Love that these include a basic igpu. Makes them much more viable for home server and low end desktops(when eventually discounted).
Yeah, but Intel has the advantage of providing vGPU support for their integrated graphics. I don't think there is anything really stopping AMD but wanting money.
Re: AMD Details Ryzen 7000 Launch: Ryzen 7950X and More, Coming Sept. 27th
#10I'm mixed. Definitely a very competent chip, great perf & efficiency gains, a fairly lovely new platform. $700 for the 16-core 7950X chip is well into HEDT price range, and while this has the CPU oomph everything else is missing. It's more $/core than what EPYC launched at, with a 16 core EPYC 7281 running $650. That had half the MHz & wasn't as good an architecture, but it also 128 lanes of PCIe (3.0 in Naples then…
The Ryzen 9 5950x launched just under two years ago at $800. This is an improvement on those prices. The improvements in IPC over the original Zen core of the EPYC 7281 are quite substantial, and AMD is in a much better position than it was those five long years ago.
One downside is that the TDP is almost doubled (170/~230 W vs 105/140 W for default/PPT) which may be a dealbreaker - certainly for my SFF system where I'm not sure I can cope with another 100W. These are limited by the socket really (AM4/AM5), but still it's nice to have that many threads in such a low power budget. I'm more curious to see what the 32-thread competition turns out to be in the same TDP bracket.