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Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by wahnfrieden »

replwoacause wrote: post #200
wahnfrieden wrote: post #186

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working to advance surveillance state, pro-cop activism and political action, shilling crypto pump and dumps, gig economy, etc good returns for investors on a lot of the above hence the interest and respect from business community. simple as that, accumulated dollars talk. someone can be a ghoul and a charlatan and still be pleasant, friendly, helpful on a personal level to many.

Thanks for the info, I’ll go read up on him some more to see what I can find. If any of this is true, he sounds like an odd choice for the CEO of YC.

He'll fit right in

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by replwoacause »

s5300 wrote: post #180
replwoacause wrote: post #175

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Can you elaborate? I'm seeing a lot of positive things said about him here so contrarian viewpoints make me genuinely curious.

Yes, you’re on HN. You’re going to be seeing mostly positive things said about him from this user base. As for elaboration - I can only implore you to go look at the history of his actions.

I’m aware of the website I’m using. You’re also here but are saying negative things and declining to provide more detail to back your position. I don’t have a dog in this fight and haven’t even heard of Garry until today, but since you had such a strong negative opinion of him I thought you might be able to tell us why.

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by blast »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #185
chx wrote: post #181

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It is neither wrong nor is it misinformed. Do you remember why Thiel invested in Confinity which became PayPal? Because he thought a digital wallet could lead to “the erosion of the nation-state”. If it's not self evident to you why that's a bad thing perhaps read https://eand.co/how-america-collapsed-and-became-a-fourth-wo... Max Chafkin argues that Thiel “has been responsible for creating the ideology that has come…

It's fine to want the erosion of the nation-state, but Thiel specifically wants to replace it with a monarch, not a free society

He does? Where has he said that?

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by dang »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #168
Aeolun wrote: post #73

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I don’t think it’s necessarily his, or Palantirs’ fault that the US government is evil.

All states are evil

Please keep generic ideological rhetoric off HN, regardless of ideology. It's repetitive and therefore tedious and therefore not what this site is for.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

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Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by dang »

gitfan86 wrote: post #153
rvz wrote: post #126

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> What is going to happen of the next few years with AI is going to be mind blowing. Or where it is headed it more dystopia. AI has already been democratized to death by the same gate keepers creating dystopian deep fakes and training on tons of your data on lots of data centers to incinerate and burn up the planet with zero efficient alternatives. The AI game has run its course, with nothing left other than the same…

Crypto bag holder I presume?

Please don't cross into personal attack. You can make your substantive points without that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by klintcho »

sandofsky wrote: post #136
garry wrote: post #90

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Twitter has been a tough one - I got involved in local politics which has been a challenge. Large accounts typically do have to block a lot to make it usable, and in particular I've had problems with folks doxxing my former home address (I had to sell that house and move), and making threats of violence against me. I'm sorry if I got it wrong, and I am happy to unblock if I did get it wrong.

I'm seeing many people say you've blocked them without ever having interacted with you. Many have jumped to the conclusion that you simply block people who disagree with your politics. I don't tweet about SF politics, but after I tweeted this, you replied tell me it's funny but wrong, and then blocked me: https://twitter.com/sandofsky/status/1491167231467999236 Which is fine. I block plenty of people. I also mute peo…

There are a bunch of block-tools which are of the kind "block everyone that liked this tweet", "block everyone that follows this person" etc. Casting that wide of a net probably also carries some "false negatives" (which could explain the "I'm blocked but never interacted with the person).

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by senttoschool »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #192
senttoschool wrote: post #131

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>I wouldn’t point to “HODL diamond hands” crypto hype (suddenly disappeared..) This is my biggest worry. I'd have preferred a non-crypto-junkie. This is Gary saying that ETH will go up to $10k soon: https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1402648829732614146 It went to $1k instead. At times, following Gary on Twitter felt like following a dumb crypto bro. Everyone looks like a genius during a bull market and 0% interest…

> This is Gary saying that ETH will go up to $10k soon: Well actually, 1. He didn't say it will go up to $10k "soon." That video is talking about long-term performance. 2. ETH is down just ~~27%~~ 41% since that video, and has moved farther up than down. 3. It's only been a year since the video, which is talking about The Merge as one of the factors behind this belief, and The Merge hasn't happened yet. 4. Quote from…

>1. He didn't say it will go up to $10k "soon." That video is talking about long-term performance.

I remember reading his LinkedIn post on this $10k topic. In it, I think he said something along the lines of "soon".

But it really doesn't matter. Saying $10k ETH is the same as a random crypto bro saying $100k BTC soon. There are no fundamentals. Just shilling. Marketing. Ponzi-like behavior.

I don't doubt that ETH might go up to $10k eventually, given enough time. After all, crypto is basically trading with Nasdaq nowadays.

>2. ETH is down just 27% since that video, and has moved farther up than down.

Down 40.97%

>3. It's only been a year since the video, which is talking about The Merge as one of the factors behind this belief, and The Merge hasn't happened yet.

He said the biggest factor is that ETH is deflationary: https://youtu.be/jo58qEoThSs?t=381

He suggests that this makes ETH "ultra sound money".

I'm not going to argue for or against this idea.

>4. Quote from the video: "It's not really gonna be that smooth a ride to $10000."

Sure. Anyone who's been in crypto long enough knows crypto isn't a smooth ride. It doesn't say anything.

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by smcl »

garry wrote: post #90
hellomyguys wrote: post #50

I guess everyone Garry has blocked on Twitter will not be applying to YC any time soon :)

Twitter has been a tough one - I got involved in local politics which has been a challenge. Large accounts typically do have to block a lot to make it usable, and in particular I've had problems with folks doxxing my former home address (I had to sell that house and move), and making threats of violence against me. I'm sorry if I got it wrong, and I am happy to unblock if I did get it wrong.

Hey garry it seems you blocked me on twitter today! I didn't say anything bad, I'm really confused. I guess it's a mistake - see https://twitter.com/sracka_omacka

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by jeffbee »

Uhhrrr wrote: post #197
NelsonMinar wrote: post #188

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I'm in the blocked club and have no idea why. Here's the one tweet I ever sent @garrytan, responding to his reply to me: https://twitter.com/nelson/status/1185919273065041925 . (I'm happy to report that business reopened with new owners and the rumor was the old owners just went broke.) I agree blocking people is fine and should be stigma free. But Mr. Tan's framing of his reasons for blocking seems at odds with the…

I'm in the blocked club and have never interacted with him!

Same. It's clear there is a connected graph of follow edges all of whom were blocked by this guy. Seems he can't live outside his filter bubble. Perfect for the leader of YC, honestly.
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