It's worth noting that American censorship in, say, 1960, was at close to the same level.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_censorship_in_the_United_...
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#172Is aversion to discussion of sex a part of traditional Chinese culture? Seems odd given I'm not aware of any puritanical religions taking hold there.
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You do realize those are in no way whatsoever related and are due to 2 completely different sets of circumstances? One is a private company (either first or third-party) offering a censored version of a piece of media and the other is the government redacting things from a document that would normally not be released at all (at this stage) and the redactions were specifically done to prevent witnesses tampering or si…
When I used the term 'similar' it had nothing to do with the reasoning or methodology behind the censoring. Only that the finished product in both cases was sufficiently censored that less than half the original content remained. It is not just a few select pieces that are cut out, it is creating a whole new product that is almost unrecognizable when compared to the original.
My apologies then. I read it differently and jumped to the wrong conclusion about the point you were making.
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> I dare you to show that scene at a liberal college and notice how few laughs you get. Did you see the recent video where the white guy dressed up in a poncho, big hat, and fake mustache and carried around maracas? He asked a bunch of white kids on a college campus if they thought his outfit was offensive to Mexicans, and they all said yes. Then he went to the Mexican part of town and asked actual Mexicans, and they…
The important part of virtual signaling is that it has nothing to do with it's stated aims. Virtue signaling such as calling out the college cafeteria for serving sushi as "cultural appropriation"[0] is not because the people doing the signaling care about the art of sushi or the Japanese culture - it's narcissistic posturing by the person doing the signaling. Another term for this is "white savior complex". In many…
Yeah, when you're part of a culture that suffers from cultural appropriation, you understand it. Although my culture suffers a very benign culinary example (poutine), it allows me to understand the power play, and how I wouldn't want others decrying the appropriation my people are living.
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Not Bullshit. If the Government & Corporations care so much about others censoring, they should lead by example. Lectures by hypocrites will otherwise be ignored...even if the censorship that you may like is categorized as being justified by you. If you don't like China's censorship policies, then appeal to China's sensibilities as their censorship is categorized as justified by them. Otherwise, the Chinese governmen…
Let me make this simpler. The 100 most popular movies produced in China are completely fine to stream in the US. Not a single scene or phrase is removed by our government before allowing us to watch them. Same with music, TV, books, and art. The reverse is not even close. Can you give me a Western example that is analogous to Tank Man, or to Winnie the Pooh?
I don't think Julian Assange among other whistleblowers who are punished for speaking out about the Western hegemony's actions care too much about the Big Bang Theory's episodes in China...same with most of who are censored by YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc for political reasons. Practice what you preach or what you preach has no credibility.
The global south & many westerners are tired of the lectures coming from the NeoLiberal Democracies & it's easy for them to identify a long list of hypocrisy.
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#176It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.
Personally I'm mostly offended how stale and unoriginal a lot of these jokes are, but I can definitely see why the censors took offense at some of them. For example, the joke about the Chinese restaurant ("I'd be more concerned about what they're passing off as chicken") plays off of the stereotype that Chinese people eat dogs and cats, and the “passing off” remark implies that the Chinese restaurant owners are decep…
> I dare you to show that scene at a liberal college and notice how few laughs you get.
This is why, in a sane society, liberal arts students are not consulted for their wisdom.
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> plays off of the stereotype that Chinese people eat dogs and cats So... you support government censorship of jokes that somebody, somewhere might be offended by?
Wouldn't that happen even in the US? A movie full of vile racist and sexist jokes bordering on abuse is not going to get a [G] rating, meaning the government is censoring it for some viewers. Edit: it seems it's actually relatively easy to find jokes that are genuinely offensive and degrading in PG rated films. Why that's considered less potentially harmful to kids than showing sex between consenting adults I honestl…
Age ratings are quite a different thing than making it unavailable to the entire public. I don't think you can just lob all censorship in the same basket like that: there's quite a bit of nuance here that makes all the difference.
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#178I find that it's always interesting to THEN consider, okay -- while there's no centralized board or anything -- what does e.g. American censorship go after?
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"The political left is supposed to be very sex-positive" That is not my impression at all. See all the attempts to formalize consent in a way that does not really square with human sexuality. Consent apps ? Wtf. Not to mention all the attempts to criminalize buying of sex, which is basically an ultraconservative position multiplied by -1.
> Not to mention all the attempts to criminalize buying of sex, which is basically an ultraconservative position multiplied by -1. What country/party has this position? As a naive European, that sounds like you might be talking about the left in the USA that is still far to the right of the European idea of "left". (Posting from Switzerland, where not only is sex work legal, it's regulated and taxed)
It's part of the Puritan heritage that still affects US progressivism.
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#180It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.
someone should try and get Brass Eye released in China