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Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by hellomyguys »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #160
908087 wrote: post #94

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The fact that you've got countless people who have never heard of you blocked, would seem to indicate that you have in fact got it wrong.

I don’t see what’s wrong about it. They are probably on some blocklist of low value reply guys.

No, I think he blocks anyone who likes a tweet that disagrees with him. Not necessarily people who are replying to him.

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by oluomike1 »

garry wrote: post #3

Believe it or not, my journey to Y Combinator started similar to how you may experience YC — through being a regular lurker and reader on Hacker News. I went to Startup School, me and my cofounders applied, we got an interview, and we got in. I was an engineer, designer and PM. I'd built teams and products, but I'd never built a company. YC gave me a shot, a community, knowhow, and the ability to access capital, tale…

Hearty congratulations Garry, Start-up school was an awesome experience with you. Cheers!

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by dang »

12_throw_away wrote: post #111
dang wrote: post #108

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(Edit: the GP comment was edited after I wrote this - more about that below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32642696 .) Hardened political rhetoric and seasoned talking points aren't on topic here (regardless of which way the political vector is pointing). If you check out the site guidelines, it should be clear why: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . You don't have to agree with anyone's views…

What is the difference between "shaming" and "referencing facts", exactly? I genuinely don't understand the distinction. Also, I'm commenting on YC's choice, not Garry's views. I understand if YC doesn't want to host criticism of its decisions, but you should be upfront about it. I explicit reject this idea that it's unfair to point to things people have said, even if they're screenshots. Sorry, that's just deciding…

Callout/shaming culture is a stock phrase I use to describe the sort of internet culture we don't want here [1]. Maybe the word 'shaming' isn't so applicable in this case, though I do think shaming is part of why online warriors like to preserve the worst internet traces left by those they dislike, and copy them into each fresh discussion.

Re 'facts': this is a red herring. There are infinitely many facts. They don't select themselves; humans do that, and they do so for non-factual reasons [2]. As a matter of fact, "but it's a fact" is the most beloved defense of trolls—not that you mean it that way. (Edit: incidentally, I have no idea whether your claims about Garry, including the ones you deleted, were facts or not - but I'm assuming they are for present purposes because it makes the moderation point stronger.)

The problem with your post is that it was obvious online agitprop—in fact one couldn't find a more classic case (edit: before you edited it—it's less that way now). That's off topic on HN, but not because of trying to protect YC from criticism (we don't moderate HN that way [3] – plenty of people criticize YC here), nor because of political disagreement (there's room for a wide range of views, as long as people are using the site as intended)—but rather because it makes threads more predictable and nastier, and therefore more boring. We're trying to optimize for something else on HN [4].

Edit: I just noticed that you edited your GP comment to take out a couple of extreme guilt-by-association references and to add a relevant tweet by sama. Those are two steps towards an on-topic sort of political argument (good), but if you're going to edit comments after they've gotten replies, it's only fair to do so in a way that doesn't deprive other posts of their original meaning. My description ("hardened political rhetoric and seasoned talking points") was accurate about your original post and is less so now. In other words, you subtly changed the thread to make the moderation look less neutral and fair than it originally was. I hope that was just an accidental side effect, and that your motive for making those edits was a sincere desire to use HN as intended.

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Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by wahnfrieden »

Aeolun wrote: post #73
sneak wrote: post #63

> After earning a degree in computer engineering from Stanford, Garry was an engineer at Palantir and then created one of the earliest and best-designed blogging platforms, Posterous. This is a reminder that Palantir is the firm that sells data mining software to US police and military organizations that then use it to violate human rights. It should be a black mark on anyone’s record.

I don’t think it’s necessarily his, or Palantirs’ fault that the US government is evil.

All states are evil

Re: Welcome Home, Garry Tan

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Post by Dma54rhs »

12_throw_away wrote: post #107
12_throw_away wrote: post #105

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Besides the "block anyone remotely progressive" approach to social media (including industry folks like Anil Dash [1]) - he seems extremely uncivil and rude [2]. And Sam Altman has explicitly referenced his politics as a reason for this decision [3]. This gives me the impression that there's a specific political agenda being advanced at YC ... [1] https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1564285359755874304?s=20... [2] ht…

So, why the downvotes? We're not allowed to talk about this?

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