Another possible explanation, which I'm surprised the author didn't go through is the "Circle of Fifths" which basically says: Since Fifths sound so great, why not just keep doing that? When we get to the next octave, then come back down. If we get to a place that's "pretty darn close" to another note, then stop. The Python explanation looks like: f = 440 for i in range(13): print(i,f) f = f * 3/2 if f > 880: f=f/2.0…
It's worth mentioning that stacking fifths this way creates something pretty close to an octave, but it's still noticeably different from an octave. The difference between an octave and 12 fifths is called "Pythagorean comma", it's about 23.46 cents and it'll be obvious to all humans who don't have a speech/hearing impediment, even if you were never musically trained. (It's believed humans are sensitive to small inte…
Why 12 notes in Western music?
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Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#62But the "why" cannot be explained just using arithmetic. There is a history behind it. Twelve note instruments didn't begin with equal temperament.
There are twelve notes in western music because the diatonic scale has 7 notes, and alterations of these notes add five more, if you aren't picky about microtonal differences.
If you have do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do, there is a small step between "mi-fa" and "ti-do" which is about half of the longer step that is observed in the five remaining successive pairs. If you identify some half-step note between those other pairs like "do-re" or "so-la", you end up with five more notes, giving you twelve. That's all it is; if we back fill 7 notes with enough notes to have chromatic half steps, we get 12.
Now, early practitioners of western music did know that that's not all there is to it: that a G# is not the same as an Ab. They tried using the in-between notes for transposing to other keys and found that the keys sounded different. They knew all about the mathematics behind it and the Pythagorean comma: that if you go around the circle of fifths 13 times, you don't end up at exactly the same note (modulo octave); there is a discrepancy.
Various technical devices were devised, such as splitting the small keys of keyboard instruments, so that the G# key actually had a G# split and an Ab split. Various tunings were also used, like well temperament. Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier is basically a set of test cases for tuning.
We settled on equal temperament because it distributes the error such that all the keys sound the same; when music is transposed to any key, the pitch relationships are preserved.
Going back to the first concept; why wouldn't more than five additional tones be added to add color to a seven tone scale? It's because Western music traditionally hadn't been oriented toward recognizing microtonal differences, or at least into organizing them (where they exist) into a single system.
In Indian music, there are 22 notes (shrutis). They are needed because there are numerous scales which have the same approximation on a western instrument. For instance, there are multiple scales that resemble "do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do": the Pythagorean scale, but which use different microtones chosen from the 22 shrutis. Those scales all have different names; they are not just different tunings for obtaining different flavors of do-re-mi.
But in Indian music, there is still a significance in 12 tones in an octave!
"There are 12 universally identifiable notes ('Swaraprakar' in Sanskrit) in any Octave (Saptak). As we play them from one end on any string, the perception of each of these 12 changes 'only' at 22 points given by nature (See numbers in green in the slide below). The sounds produced at these 22 points are the '22 Shrutis' and the 3 types of distances in-between are called as 'Shrutyantara' (in Sanskrit) (See Legend below)" http://www.22shruti.com/
And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shruti_(music)#Identification_...
It seems there is no getting away from the situation of there being identifiable 7 note scales (Swaras), into which we can stuff five more notes to obtain some kind of twelve-note chromatic scale.
Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pythagoras is believed to have come up with the just intonation (exact rational) figures. At the time, irrational numbers were distrusted and despised so, as you noted, the perfect fifth really was exactly 3:2. But it’s likely that a 12-tone system won out because lg(3/2) is so close to 7/12, even if this was never a conscious decision. 19, 31, and 53 are also credible candidates per continued fraction expansion, but…
Pythagoras and his followers at first thought that irrational numbers didn't even exist, though the story that they drowned a guy for proving by contradiction that sqrt(2) is irrational is probably not right. Rather, strings with length ratios made of small integers, like 2/3 or 3/4, sound good (harmonize) when played together. So the started with the ratios, because that's what made sense. Not to use ratios was cons…
Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#64With digital pianos, I imagine it is easy to switch to different tunings so that you can play each piece in a tuning that fits the key? Would be a major advantage over acoustic pianos.
Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's worth mentioning that stacking fifths this way creates something pretty close to an octave, but it's still noticeably different from an octave. The difference between an octave and 12 fifths is called "Pythagorean comma", it's about 23.46 cents and it'll be obvious to all humans who don't have a speech/hearing impediment, even if you were never musically trained. (It's believed humans are sensitive to small inte…
Somewhere there is a perfect universe where 12 fifths form an octave.
Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#6612 notes tuned in equal temperament is a workable compromise between musical expressiveness, harmonic ratio accuracy, readability, and finger precision. It's also an established standard, which is a huge deal because it means you have access to a huge established repertoire. A 31-TET acoustic piano would be huge, extremely complicated, and probably unplayable. Smaller instruments mostly just aren't practical. In theo…
I think 19-TET is the most viable alternative to 12-TET. It fits in a standard piano form factor by adding a few black keys, and uses the same note names everyone is used to. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:19_equal_temperament... And it sounds really unique! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJfTu1Y2H44
Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#67Another possible explanation, which I'm surprised the author didn't go through is the "Circle of Fifths" which basically says: Since Fifths sound so great, why not just keep doing that? When we get to the next octave, then come back down. If we get to a place that's "pretty darn close" to another note, then stop. The Python explanation looks like: f = 440 for i in range(13): print(i,f) f = f * 3/2 if f > 880: f=f/2.0…
Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#68Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#69Some comments on tones. Pythagorean tuning is based on repeated ³⁄₂ increases in frequency with occasional halving to stay in the octave, so we have, e.g., A = 1 E = 3/2 B = 9/8 (here we halved to get back into our 1–2 range) F# = 27/16 C# = 81/64 (another halving) etc. Another approach is to use harmonic overtones. When a string (or a column of air) vibrates, it vibrates not just at its fundamental, but in a series…
Here's my take: late medieval singers discovered The Major Chord. That's the combination of three (!) notes that is "most consonant" (mathematically: beats in the shortest period). This combines two notes a major fifth apart (ratio 3:2), with a third note that is 5:4 with the low note. You can write some code to prove this if you like.
So now take that "best" chord with its three notes, and start moving it around. If you go up a fifth (i.e. by "the most consonent interval", that is the "closest best chord to your first best chord") you can play the same chord, adding two needed notes that weren't in the scale before. You can likewise go down a fifth to add two new notes.
Then you compress these seven notes into a single octave, and you get... the major scale! It's just there. All you need is that one "best" three-note chord and an obvious metric for "nearest" (i.e. transpose by a fifth) and you have almost all of modern tonal music. Play the same tunes starting on different notes and you get "modalities", etc... You can transpose up and down to nearby keys and keep playing by "cheating" with your tunings to move a note half way up or down.
And the practice of formalizing those transpositional cheats because what we now know as the equitempered scale. But they're still just cheats. And the fact that pow(2, 1.0/12) happens to work is, basically, just dumb luck.
Re: Why 12 notes in Western music?
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's worth mentioning that stacking fifths this way creates something pretty close to an octave, but it's still noticeably different from an octave. The difference between an octave and 12 fifths is called "Pythagorean comma", it's about 23.46 cents and it'll be obvious to all humans who don't have a speech/hearing impediment, even if you were never musically trained. (It's believed humans are sensitive to small inte…
Somewhere there is a perfect universe where 12 fifths form an octave.