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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#91

It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.

> such a bland, un-subversive show ... is so heavily censored

American censorship is honestly no better, it's just that the show was written with the specifics of American censorship in mind.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#92

I don't really agree with this, but consider this argument : Is it really a bad thing if different countries have different understanding of what's allowed/not allowed? If the whole world had the same system of governance, that could be dangerous too.

Keep in mind that this is government censorship; as opposed to private services performing the censorship to meet the desires of their users.

I really don't have a problem with services offering edited, family-friendly versions of media as long as its disclosed and there's a way to see the original.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#93

It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.

Western/American cultural messaging is very deeply baked into the popular media. What is necessarily aligned with, and un-subversive to, Western values may not be so for other sets of values.

In short, "bland", "un-subversive", "sensitive" are culturally relative terms.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#94
post #57

It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.

Personally I'm mostly offended how stale and unoriginal a lot of these jokes are, but I can definitely see why the censors took offense at some of them. For example, the joke about the Chinese restaurant ("I'd be more concerned about what they're passing off as chicken") plays off of the stereotype that Chinese people eat dogs and cats, and the “passing off” remark implies that the Chinese restaurant owners are decep…

> plays off of the stereotype that Chinese people eat dogs and cats

So... you support government censorship of jokes that somebody, somewhere might be offended by?

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#95
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"The political left is supposed to be very sex-positive" That is not my impression at all. See all the attempts to formalize consent in a way that does not really square with human sexuality. Consent apps ? Wtf. Not to mention all the attempts to criminalize buying of sex, which is basically an ultraconservative position multiplied by -1.

> Not to mention all the attempts to criminalize buying of sex, which is basically an ultraconservative position multiplied by -1.

What country/party has this position?

As a naive European, that sounds like you might be talking about the left in the USA that is still far to the right of the European idea of "left".

(Posting from Switzerland, where not only is sex work legal, it's regulated and taxed)

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#96
post #57

It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.

Personally I'm mostly offended how stale and unoriginal a lot of these jokes are, but I can definitely see why the censors took offense at some of them. For example, the joke about the Chinese restaurant ("I'd be more concerned about what they're passing off as chicken") plays off of the stereotype that Chinese people eat dogs and cats, and the “passing off” remark implies that the Chinese restaurant owners are decep…

I don't find BBT funny. The censored sex-related stuff is in there for its shock effect, anyway.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"+", apparently.

The plus signifies support and acceptance of those who live with HIV.

I think the + just signifies that the movement is willing to include groups that aren't explicitly mentioned because

1) the acronym can only get so long because it becomes alphabet soup.

2) the default posture is to ally with groups that haven't been included yet.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#98
post #3

I find that it's always interesting to THEN consider, okay -- while there's no centralized board or anything -- what does e.g. American censorship go after?

In the US, you can get in a lot of trouble for publishing military secrets. (IE, you bet a movie that casually mentions a military secret would get into a lot of hot water right away.)

Otherwise, the rest of censorship comes from social pressure; or someone with hurt feelings trying to twist the courts to enforce their will.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#99
post #3

I find that it's always interesting to THEN consider, okay -- while there's no centralized board or anything -- what does e.g. American censorship go after?

America is much more sensitive about sex and nudity than a lot of other cultures. In I, Robot , a scene that showed in the European version did not show in the US version. It was a full body nudity shower scene and the point was to show you how extensive his robotic parts were. They had to find some other means to explain that to the audience in the US and it wasn't even a sexual scene. Just full nudity (of Will Smit…

> America is much more sensitive about sex and nudity than a lot of other cultures

Nudity.. maybe. Sex? Most American shows I have seen just CANNOT STOP talking about sex. Sure, they won't display it, but it's all about it. Even TBBT.

(FWIW, comparing to Czech culture and TV series.)

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

#100
post #86
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I'm mostly offended how stale and unoriginal a lot of these jokes are, but I can definitely see why the censors took offense at some of them. For example, the joke about the Chinese restaurant ("I'd be more concerned about what they're passing off as chicken") plays off of the stereotype that Chinese people eat dogs and cats, and the “passing off” remark implies that the Chinese restaurant owners are decep…

> I dare you to show that scene at a liberal college and notice how few laughs you get. Did you see the recent video where the white guy dressed up in a poncho, big hat, and fake mustache and carried around maracas? He asked a bunch of white kids on a college campus if they thought his outfit was offensive to Mexicans, and they all said yes. Then he went to the Mexican part of town and asked actual Mexicans, and they…

As a measure of whether a stereotype is actually bad or has negative effects, this sort of thing is a lot staler than a BBT joke, though.
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