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The Big [Censored] Theory

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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Kinda weird that author categorized the incest joke "Howard: I lost my virginity to my cousin Jeanie" under LGBTQ censorship. When she mentioned the justification: "China has encouraged straight couples to marry and raise two to three children." it makes some sense, but incestuous relationships are not considered by themselves "LGBTQIA2S+"

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I don't really agree with this, but consider this argument : Is it really a bad thing if different countries have different understanding of what's allowed/not allowed? If the whole world had the same system of governance, that could be dangerous too.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Kinda weird that author categorized the incest joke "Howard: I lost my virginity to my cousin Jeanie" under LGBTQ censorship. When she mentioned the justification: "China has encouraged straight couples to marry and raise two to three children." it makes some sense, but incestuous relationships are not considered by themselves "LGBTQIA2S+"

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I find that it's always interesting to THEN consider, okay -- while there's no centralized board or anything -- what does e.g. American censorship go after?

I think we mostly use emergent social media effects for that now. Puppeteered by popular pundits, superhero movies and the usual marketing.

Unpopular opinions can lead to censorship, firing, lawsuits and death-threats. It works pretty good.

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post #19

Kinda weird that author categorized the incest joke "Howard: I lost my virginity to my cousin Jeanie" under LGBTQ censorship. When she mentioned the justification: "China has encouraged straight couples to marry and raise two to three children." it makes some sense, but incestuous relationships are not considered by themselves "LGBTQIA2S+"

They mention "LGBTQ+ (and atypical heterosexual relationships)"

Ah. I missed that on the first read. The visualizations lump them all together.

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post #8

It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.

It's a deeper level of censorship. Not only will you refrain from thinking about these things in a tolerant light, you will refrain from thinking about these things at all. It chops pieces off reality when you do that. Censorship is amazing. So popular (downvotes anyone?), so casually employed, yet so incredibly destructive.

This idea can be easily reversed:

It's a deeper level of indoctrination. When these things are covertly inserted in an innocuous sounding show, not only will you start thinking about them, you will subconsiously think of them in a tolerant light.

China has its own culture and mores, why should it allow that kind of soft projection of Western power.

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I'm not sure what aspects of the current Chinese government/communist party would be called "left". For instance, they don't seem especially interested in prioritizing any kind of equality of distribution of resources or power (I'm not sure if they even pretend they are, at least in a way that even any 'true believers' believe? I'd be curious for a read from someone in China though); or with providing any real level of 'social safety net'. I think they do both of these things actually less than the USA does, at present. I think any theory that tries to mostly put things into a dimension of "left" and "right" which calls the current Chinese regime or party "left" is probably not a great theory.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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post #13

Interesting that censoring only 3% of what I would regard as a very trendy show can eliminate depictions of sexuality, sex, religion, and unwanted political commentary. You can effectively change reality by adjusting a tiny fraction of it. This is why the Overton Window is so important.

That percentage will depend heavily on the show. The Big Bang Theory is fairly innocuous. Imagine trying to censor dramas like Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, or House of Cards to remove all of the depictions of sex, drugs, or political commentary.

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything you can think of you will be able to find that content. We simply don't have the kind of censorship that China has. Comparing the two is ridiculous.

Your second sentence is absolutely correct, the others are not. Easy example: compare the Marvel "Civil War" comics to the movies. The former was critical of the military in a way that could not happen in any big blockbuster movie.

Avatar is one of the biggest grossing movies of all time with a plot critical of the military and imperialism.
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