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Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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Roma (also present in Slovakia and Hungary) and Hungarians mostly.

> also present in Slovakia and Hungary And Bulgaria, and Serbia, ...

Yeah just listing the countries from the grand-parent comment. Their presence covers a lot of European countries (all the way to Italy and Spain in the west) kind of by definition, since they're a nomad population.

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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I kinda feel thisn't about Eastern Europe, its USA vs the rest of the world. The "25 things British Say vs What they mean" meme is pretty similar. https://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/25-things-britis...

I don't think it is -- the suggestion is that there's a spectrum of positivity, where Americans describe things very excitably and Eastern Europeans tend to be more modest. So we'd both be outside the norm from his point of view (the actual norm if you polled every English speaker would I guess be skewed a bit more in the American direction).

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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post #30

I kinda feel thisn't about Eastern Europe, its USA vs the rest of the world. The "25 things British Say vs What they mean" meme is pretty similar. https://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/25-things-britis...

strange list - all of those phrases have the same way of functioning in America - cueing a listener to "read between the lines" and flip their meaning.

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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I appreciate the author's intention to help. But I can't but be annoyed by his stance that "I am at Cambridge", therefore the way I prefer things to be formulated is the correct, universally accepted way. What's wrong with honest, no-nonsense recommendation letters? Why is flattering and positive language a requirement? I am sure the author knows how to differentiate "you are doing brilliant work" coming from his mot…

This is intended for students that go to Cambridge, of course. I thought that was obvious from the article?

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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post #49

I appreciate the author's intention to help. But I can't but be annoyed by his stance that "I am at Cambridge", therefore the way I prefer things to be formulated is the correct, universally accepted way. What's wrong with honest, no-nonsense recommendation letters? Why is flattering and positive language a requirement? I am sure the author knows how to differentiate "you are doing brilliant work" coming from his mot…

This is intended for students that go to Cambridge, of course. I thought that was obvious from the article?

From the article "In summary, please take time to write strong recommendation letters for your best students."

"of course" and "obviously" it is not intended for students, but for professors writing recommendation letters for student that intend to go Cambridge.

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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I have to say "Eastern European" is a quite poor and unhelpful generalization nowadays. It is ethnically and linguistically diverse: Slavic, Baltic, Finno-Ugric, Romance (Romania) as well as Albanian and Hellenic. It is religiously diverse: Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Muslim and even the bastions of irreligion/atheism (Czechia and Estonia). There are significant cultural differences, especially comparing the more…

Now you know how I feel reading all those articles about "Africa".

I was thinking the same thing, but about Asia.

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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A guy from South Africa once made the same argument about Sweden. Whether he was right or not, geographically speaking, does not really matter. We all know what everybody means. Nordic good, Eastern bad. Sadly, it's mostly true.

Geographic middle of Europe is somewhere in Poland. Seeing that Sweden is distinctly north of Poland, it makes total sense to count it as Northern European country.

Maybe I didn't make myself very clear. His point was that Sweden is in Eastern Europe.

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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We are? I suspect many of us are trying to trick ourselves as much as everyone else.

I love how my previous comment was even flagged :-)

They're artificial smiles, I guess you're programmed to use them from an early age.

I've literally seen an American coworker, from a distance, with a normal resting face, put it on once they were at a range where they'd realize it's me, then immediately drop it after passing by (I turned around precisely to see the follow up).

My impression is that they're supposed to be a sign of success. A sort of Instagram reality before its time. People smiling are usually happy and probably successful.

Plus, of course, it relaxes the interlocutor and makes them feel appreciated, up to a point.

All in all, a gimmick.

Re: Eastern European Guide to Writing Reference Letters

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I have to say "Eastern European" is a quite poor and unhelpful generalization nowadays. It is ethnically and linguistically diverse: Slavic, Baltic, Finno-Ugric, Romance (Romania) as well as Albanian and Hellenic. It is religiously diverse: Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Muslim and even the bastions of irreligion/atheism (Czechia and Estonia). There are significant cultural differences, especially comparing the more…

This isn't a very helpful observation. By Eastern European, I presume he means the former Soviet Bloc. It has nothing to do with ethnicity, language, or culture, and everything to do with the lingering effects on organizational and academic behavior imposed by communist and totalitarian regimes. From Romania to Lithuania, this impact can have a remarkable consistency.

A lot of this advices are actually useful for some Western European people, at least France and Germany (and possibly Italy as well).
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