Remote startups will win the war for top talent

Post by asoneth » Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 2:44 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #490

asoneth wrote: post #195

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> You can pay as much as you want but after a certain threshold I'm curious if there is a multiplier a company could pay you personally to convince you to endure the commuting stress and inflexibility of an in-person office? I.e. would you go back to a commute for 1.2x, 1.5x, 2x, or 3x your current salary?

First nobody is going to pay me 3x for the same job in an office so this kind of question hardly makes sense. However even in reality it would be possible to get 1.5x which is already a strecth i dont think i would forego the convenience of working from home.

The question was to get a better sense of the range of how people value the benefit of working remotely. If some folks are only willing to come back into the office for 3x (say high-six figures for US devs) that's helpful information regardless of whether the local labor market actually ends up requiring in-person employers to pay that much.

My experience so far has been that the average multiplier is smaller, closer to ~1.2x for many software engineers. I suspect many companies would be willing and able to pay 1.5x for in-person developers but I think you're right that significantly fewer would be willing or able to pay 2x or 3x.

Post by tluyben2 » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 5:19 PM UTC

juve1996 wrote: post #485

origin_path wrote: post #456

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Their post says this already. It's metrics from their project management system i.e. tickets.

So really a nothing statement - we have no idea how this system works or what "tickets" actually means.

Yeah, I was thinking that. Once people know how the system works, people will game the system. In my experience, there are some people who want to manipulate everything in their favor and against the rest and you cannot really do that (‘networking’ with your manager etc) from home, so they invariably go to the office. So metrics from pm systems are suspect: they are skewed often to people who figured out how to make the stats look good for them. I have seen it too many times. The last big client I had, had a system which gave a combined score analysis based on hours worked, tasks done, github commits, LoC (yep) and some other stuff. It was trivial to make yourself look 10x better than someone who didn't know how it worked or who didn't care or who was just honest.

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent

Re: Remote startups will win the war for top talent